Add to cart not working if user does not accept cookies (eu-privacy directive)

[SteP[IT]]

I'm dealing with the EU Privacy Directory compliance in my site, and decided to use a third party plugin to let the user choose to accept or deny cookies.
I have installed the plugin, solved some conflicts and now it works smoothly, except for the "add to cart" function!
The plugin I use does not let the site put any kind of cookie on the customer side until he explicitally accept them.
It means that NO COOKIES are set at all on (this to be fully compliant to the European Directive: no cookies can be set until the user accept them in explicit way) the customer browser BOTH in the case he waits to place the cookie acceptance decision (not clicking on the ACCEPT or the DENY button, but navigating the site) AND in the case he refused to accept cookies.
If I'm not wrong, there is no way to have the "add to cart" process working without setting cookies: is this true?
Is there a way to solve this important problem?
Being fully compliant to the Europen Directive is imperative, and VM should work also without putting cookies on the client side.
Waiting for your kindly reply very ASAP
Best regards

(Joomla 3.4.3 - VM 3.0.9.4)

[Milbo]

You may give us the link to the extension, so we can try with it

[SteP[IT]]

I've sent you a PM with the link.
Thank you in advance.
Regards
Stefano

[Milbo]

Hmmm, for me it works. Maybe connected to your payment/shipment plugin?

[SteP[IT]]

I have only the Standard vmplugin activated, and only the "By weight, ZIP and countries" vmshipment

[Studio 42]

Hi SteP[IT],
The law is completly stupid !
At the moment you add user info in database, cookies, localstorage or anything else, you have to add the message.
This mean on a shop, if the user don't accept the cookies then you have to reject all possible action.
This is not only the browser cookies as many mean! And saving a product to cart(in a cookie or not) is not compliant with the EU directive

For info;
http://extensions.virtuemart.net/ not legal
http://shop.st42.fr not legal
http://www.amazon.fr/ not legal
90% shops are illegal in EU

[SteP[IT]]

For Milbo:

It seems that the problem arised when I wrongly turned on the Mootools option inside that plugin (instead of using jQuery), my fault
Thank you for wasting your time addressing me to a coffee cup to wake me up
Regards


for Studio 42:

The law may be stupid, but you must deal with it: right now in my Country (Italy) you may be charged by $$ penalty if you do NOT place that EU notice on your website, so you must do it also if you think it's stupid or not

[Studio 42]

Add a notice: This site cannot work without cookies, please leave if you don't agree.
I think the user are not stupid.
A shop have to save the datas.

[SteP[IT]]

I live in Italy, not in the USA or in a more advanced Country.... I must deal with non-tech-aware people, many of them not discerning between a lamp and a smartphone
I'm not reach as Amazon, so I do not intend to spend money for penalties, well knowing that I must at least show them I comply with rules.
The question that rules are effective or not is not in my target

[Studio 42]

I think as this was a good idea, at end, this only frustrate the users.
Another problem, is if you use 3 party plugins, services, you don't know if this services use cookies,storage(eg google) or not.
This mean that all site(99%) have to display the cookie message to be compliant with the EU directive.

[alatak]

Hello

Can you check what cookies do you have?
ON chrome, if you click rigth, and use "view page info" then you have the cookies stored

[SteP[IT]]

When setting the EU Privacy plugin OFF, I can see 2 cookies:

4a152e3638e35a2ab1dd5a8abb6fdbe7 (content: it-IT)
7ef1704505c7cfd4cbb09f31d5aeda5e (content: 71pbv7vccb7qnc8oikp84sfc35)

When setting the plugin ON, a I see only 1 cookie:
4a152e3638e35a2ab1dd5a8abb6fdbe7 (content: it-IT)

I have also noted that, when turning on the plugin, this line disappear from the page header:

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  <script src="/components/com_virtuemart/assets/js/vmkeepalive.js?vmver=8872" type="text/javascript" defer="defer" async="async"></script>

[SteP[IT]]

Cheking the same behaviour in Firefox v 39, both the cookies are correctly set when the plugin is ON or OFF
This same thing (2 cookies correctly set) happens in my non-chome smartphone browser (android), both with plugin ON or OFF

It seems to be restricted to chrome....

[SteP[IT]]

Further testing, I made this:

1) loaded the product page turning on the privacy plugin.
2) saved that page locally
3) loaded the saved file in Firefox 39, and added the product to the cart: IT WORKED
4) loaded the same file in Chrome, and added the product to the cart: IT DID NOT WORK

It seems to be restricted to some odd chrome problem: the same configuration works normally on my android non-chrome browser....

[Milbo]

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if (!class_exists('VirtueMartCart')) require(VMPATH_SITE . DS . 'helpers' . DS . 'cart.php');
$cart = VirtueMartCart::getCart();
if(!empty($cart->cartProductsData)){
vmJsApi::keepAlive(1,4);
}


I wonder if it is connected to this lines.

Hmm odd problem, with FF and Chrome. Sounds like the plugin does not work correctly on FF, right?