basePriceWithTax not showing up

[rayge]

I have a site where the products have overrides in the price to do a sales price.
the problem is that it wont show the original price.
from what i understand that should be basePriceWithTax

unfortunately when i Print_r the prices it shows [basePriceWithTax] => 0
basePrice shows the orig price but I thought  the other variable is supposed to be used.

ANY HELP is appreciated!