Adding Cutomfield Editor type to product call for error 507, 508

[scriner]

Hello

Joomla ‎4.2.5‎ / VirtueMart 4.0.8 10748

I created customfield with editor type. When I add this customfirld to product - it call for repeating error 507,508 and Err_Insufficient_Resources in admin panel.

(anonim) @ vmkeepalive.js?vmver=04dd2626:21
jquery.min.js?3.6.0:2          GET https://kingsmith.kz/administrator/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=product&task=edit&virtuemart_product_id[]=3&_=1669700800610 net::ERR_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES
send @ jquery.min.js?3.6.0:2
ajax @ jquery.min.js?3.6.0:2

Error repeating many times. There is no same error on joomla 3.

I tested it on blank J+VM instalation. You alse can see screenshot.

Please, check how to fix this issue.

Other not so critical problem - I can choose customfield only when I have two or more customfields. When I have only one - choosing have no effect.

[hazael]

Doesn't work for you because Milbo says everything works for him. 
Unfortunately - you have to come to terms with this problem and pretend that everything is working fine.
To solve this problem you cannot use the CodeMirror editor, as Milbo does not use it 

Virtuemart has a lot of such errors that are considered crap which according to the author, should not be repaired.
I have written about this problem several times.
https://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=147269.msg531701#msg531701

[scriner]

Doesn't work for you because Milbo says everything works for him. 
Unfortunately - you have to come to terms with this problem and pretend that everything is working fine.
To solve this problem you cannot use the CodeMirror editor, as Milbo does not use it 

Virtuemart has a lot of such errors that are considered crap which according to the author, should not be repaired.
I have written about this problem several times.
https://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=147269.msg531701#msg531701

Hello, hazael

Thank you for help. It really works with JCE. During development I try to use minimal side components. But this time, only side editor - JCE works fine and no stock editor works.

You are right about situation with VM now. I see that many issues fixing too slow last time. It may be that VM need to get payment model like WooCommerce for become more quality in future. My business has grown with VM and now I ready to pay.

[hazael]

If you don't need the wysiwyg editor in the custom field, it's best to change the editor field to textarea field

My business has grown with VM and now I ready to pay.

I also believe that Virtuemart should become a commercial product.
It is similar with the famous free K2 component - the authors do not have the time and money to develop this project. Every month faithful users leave.
Fortunately, Milbo and his Virtuemart don't give up

[scriner]

If you don't need the wysiwyg editor in the custom field, it's best to change the editor field to textarea field

My business has grown with VM and now I ready to pay.

I also believe that Virtuemart should become a commercial product.
It is similar with the famous free K2 component - the authors do not have the time and money to develop this project. Every month faithful users leave.
Fortunately, Milbo and his Virtuemart don't give up

Wysiwyg is needed, but I was agree to use it wothout wysiwyg, just for it's working.

I surprised that this issue solved by using payed extension. I just glad that for JCE is really useful extension.

[Studio 42]

https://shop.st42.fr/en/products/shortcodes.htm have a editor type of field
It use a light weight editor
Here the info for the editor field https://shop.st42.fr/en/shorcodes-english-doc#editor

[Milbo]

If you don't need the wysiwyg editor in the custom field, it's best to change the editor field to textarea field

My business has grown with VM and now I ready to pay.

I also believe that Virtuemart should become a commercial product.
It is similar with the famous free K2 component - the authors do not have the time and money to develop this project. Every month faithful users leave.
Fortunately, Milbo and his Virtuemart don't give up

There is a new idea about that. But as I promised more than 10 years ago, when I started as leader, the core and AIO keeps free.

Doesn't work for you because Milbo says everything works for him. 
Unfortunately - you have to come to terms with this problem and pretend that everything is working fine.
To solve this problem you cannot use the CodeMirror editor, as Milbo does not use it 

Virtuemart has a lot of such errors that are considered crap which according to the author, should not be repaired.
I have written about this problem several times.
https://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=147269.msg531701#msg531701

Hello, hazael

Thank you for help. It really works with JCE. During development I try to use minimal side components. But this time, only side editor - JCE works fine and no stock editor works.

You are right about situation with VM now. I see that many issues fixing too slow last time. It may be that VM need to get payment model like WooCommerce for become more quality in future. My business has grown with VM and now I ready to pay.

Look, there is a simple opportunity, buy a membership https://extensions.virtuemart.net/support-updates/virtuemart-membership
The update from j4.0 to j4.2 was more than 250 hours of work. Not even 20% was payed by members or similar.

[scriner]

Look, there is a simple opportunity, buy a membership https://extensions.virtuemart.net/support-updates/virtuemart-membership
The update from j4.0 to j4.2 was more than 250 hours of work. Not even 20% was payed by members or similar.

Hello Milbo,

Сlarify please, what difference between bronze, silver and gold membership? And is it lifetime subscription or limited time?

I didn't find this information on page that you linked.

[hazael]

Milbo - I would buy a membership but if I did I would be dishonest to myself. Why? Because others will get the same thing for free. I'm not a masochist.
Ideally, Virtuemart will be free, but only with limited features. There are many app developers applying this policy and they are all happy.

here is my idea for a sales plan

Free version |	VIP 50 |	VIP 100
Virtuemart with total bugs. Did not work? - fix it yourself |	VM with minor bugs + tech support |	VM without bugs + tech support + annual back massage pass for a tired admin

[niosme]

The problem with the support and premium or silver packets are that if the problem is fixed or bug then in each update the files will ovewrite the previous or new bugs will occur propably on update.

[Milbo]

The problem with the support and premium or silver packets are that if the problem is fixed or bug then in each update the files will ovewrite the previous or new bugs will occur propably on update.

nonsense. It is of course the opposite. Bronze is the standard. Look, I have the same problem as Thunderbird. They just made an alert saying "Just 1% of the users is donating". If 10% of the vm users would donate 50 euro a year, I could work for VM 40 hours a week. But we have only 1% doing that.

So Bronze is mainly for "that there is someone taking care of the system for the next years". Think about, when I wouldnt be here, there wouldnt be any vm for J4. stAn of Rupostel helped a lot, but I am sure, when I say it would have been very hard without him, he would say almost impossible without Max.

There are some people ( a hand full) who just bought a goldmembership and asked here and there some 10 minutes questions. But you can also buy a higher membership to get some development done for the core.
The most features of the last 4 years were payed by members. https://virtuemart.net/news/509-virtuemart-4-0-8-release-news
" I told the customer that there was another idea to make it faster, and he agreed to buy a membership to finance testing this idea. The new idea loads the entire table at once and does the tree sorting directly in php. The new result is phenomenal, loading the category tree via ajax now takes only 800ms without cache for the 8000+ categories. With cache it is about 650ms. "

So any money, which you spent into a membership is for the improvement of the core and keeps in the core, and of course it still works if you update.

The right system in vm, for example. We have more than 100 permissions. That was paid by guy even before we had the membership.

[scriner]

Milbo, my friend, you are great developer but not so great businessman. Please, don't be offended by these words.

What we have now - it is donation system without offering exact privileges.

We need subscription system for fast and professional support with clear rules. I think that it must be limited time subscription, because it is most popular for extensions.

There are many variants how to make difference between subscription levels. It may be closed part of forum, speed reaction on case (3 day for bronze, 2 day for silver, 1 day for gold), may be limited qty of domains and etc.

My business has grown with VM and I think that VM can grow too.

It will stay free for beginners but become more reliable for professionals.

[hazael]

I told the customer that there was another idea to make it faster, and he agreed to buy a membership to finance testing this idea.

Yes, some pay and others use

This system of donation is naive. It's a communist idea -  you sleeping, you working, you don't working - you get the same reward or pay.
This donation is the same as putting money in the priest's tray at church. 15% of the faithful give something, and the rest pretend that they have no money. Oooooh... God bless those who paid us something!  Amen
The best thing about it is that people are getting smarter, they want to develop and that's why they're leaving the church. The fewer believers, the lower the percentage of donations. The fewer donations, the fewer people want to be a priest. Virtuemart works the same way ;-)
In the end, only one person will be left - the Pope - Milbo. the last Samurai   

When I was a teenager, my idea of ​​saving the world as a volunteer in first place. Until I noticed that there are those who used me for their own interests.
Now we are adult people, some of us are over 40 years old. Our way of thinking has changed a long time ago.
We all work and our activities are no longer charitable.  Virtuemart wasn't created for fun - it's a system that gives money.
Besides, the donation makes no sense to me. I run a company and I want to receive an invoice that I can settle with the tax office to deduct tax.

On the chart (from 2004 to 2022) it is easy to see which system is most often used - the cheaper, the less frequently used. It doesn't have to be true, but I think so.

The real phenomenon here is, of course, woocommerce. The system is also free, but it is more people-friendly and this means that they have incomparably more users - and here the communist system (subsidies) works perfectly.
Of course, they also have a commercial (enterprice) package that actually works - it's not fiction - this allows them to develop effectively.

For starters - just compare both Virtuemart.net vs woocommerce.com websites. Virtuemart stopped in time a dozen years ago.
Everything is old and archaic. It can scare away anyone who would like to convince themselves of the Virtuemart system just before its installation.
Milbo is 100% a programmer. UX and UI is a topic beyond the reach of Virtuemart. No marketing and image activities. All of this cannot be done alone. It is unfeasible.
You need money and people for that

[Milbo]

Woocommerce works with WP, that is "all".

[hazael]

Yes, and Germany did not win the group at the World Cup in Qatar because Japan played them...
It's interesting, everyone thought that Germany would play in the final ;-)



Wordpress, like Joomla, is just an engine - Virtuemart can work on both systems.
Many developers have chosen this path:
dj-extensions.com
jch-optimize.net
yootheme.com
etc..

You will find an explanation for everything, but what would you say if Woocommerce was also adapted to Joomla?
Virtuemart can also win with woocomerce - just change the stereotypical thinking and implement a better strategy , that is "all".