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Title: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: ghannes on December 07, 2011, 00:03:22 AM
Using last version vm2.0.0RC3 E
- seems it's not possible to define a quantity break (volume) prices with vm2. This feature was apparently removed.
(i.e. for the same product:  price 100 for if ordered between 1 -> 10; price 90 if ordered between 11 -> 20, etc)
- is there an alternative? Will this feature be added in future versions ?

note that table _virtuemart_product_prices still has fields: product_price_vdate, product_price_edate, price_quantity_start, price_quantity_end fields, but these are not filled up or used by calculation rules.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on December 07, 2011, 01:57:41 AM
There exist already a written plugin. We think about to move all calculation mathops in the plugins and provide a simpel plugin with simpel quantity and sell a really professional one for 40 euro, or to enhance it more and sell it for 10-20 euro. I think it will cost a bit at begin and we will provide more and more in a free plugin. For exampel it does atm not work with quantity based discounts like,.. buy 3 of x, get 1 y for free.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: tm on December 18, 2011, 23:28:18 PM
Please help me understand the previous post. I currently have a site in 1.1.19 that is using the quantity/price/shopper group pricing and I would like to migrate it to VM2. Based on your message it appears that a plugin is available for the basics. It also appears that there may be an advanced plugin later for a price.

1. If there is a plugin available now, how do I make it active or use it to create the quantity/price/shopper group setup? Actually, I know you're busy so rather than telling me how, maybe directing me to resources would be better. I have searched the forums and resource that I know. It may be that I'm just looking in the wrong place.

2. If there is a plugin that will be forthcoming, is it in the works? Any estimate time for release (RC)? We are more than willing to pay for a plugin. The same goes with one time costs for VM2 if that is required later on. Now is a good time for me to migrate the website that we created and I would prefer to use Joomla 1.7 and VM2. I have been very pleased with what I have seen of VM2 so far. Thank you to all of the developers for the work.

Thank you for you assistance.

TM
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on December 18, 2011, 23:38:31 PM
The plugin is ready and in use. Wait with your installation for the final tomorrow.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: tm on December 20, 2011, 02:21:21 AM
I can definitely put it through the paces when it is available. I look forward to the plugin.

I'll actually run a fresh Joomla 1.7.3 install and VM (latest version) install. I want to keep the CMS environment as clean as possible.

Thank you.

tm
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: tkejmullins on December 30, 2011, 21:56:21 PM
Was this plugin released?  What is it called?
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on December 31, 2011, 14:22:36 PM
The quantity plugin is ready. We sell that for 30 €. Write a pm to me, when you are interested.

The plugin has the following features:
It extends an existing rule, so it you can choose your own arithmetic method and it is also depending on category, shoppergroups, country, states, and date.

You can set an amount condition for a fixed value, or a test if it is dividable by. For example, you want to discount only full packages.

Additionally to that you can add a table with min, max values and an override value. The example below shows a quantity discount for 5,10,15,20 with 10% and for more than 21 if dividable by 5 (25,30,...) with 20%.

There is an additionally extra arithmetic method, for a logarythmic disocunt.

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Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Joan on January 09, 2012, 15:10:45 PM
Hi Milbo,
I sended a PM to buy this component but with no answer.
I need discount by quantity and I like to see the feature of discount by quantity in a section, independent of product buyed. (exist one hack to vm1 that do can this)

sorry for my english, and thanks in advance.
Salutations from Barcelona
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: gorilladiver on January 10, 2012, 00:23:49 AM
I am also interested in getting this plug in
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: dmuntean on January 10, 2012, 02:18:24 AM
I need this plugin as well. Would you happen to have a website we can visit?
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: gorilladiver on January 10, 2012, 15:06:43 PM
has anyone been able to get this plugin?

I really think it should have been built into 2.0 since it was part of the older version
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: dmuntean on January 10, 2012, 20:32:21 PM
I'm sure he's just a little busy since Virtuemart 2 just launched. Hopefully we will hear from him soon.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on January 11, 2012, 13:33:45 PM
yes, I am sorry, we are heavily working on our store. There are so many interested people that it makes more sense to wait for the store.

The quantity plugin is much more mighty than in vm1.1.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: dmuntean on January 11, 2012, 15:18:33 PM
Thanks Milbo!

I appreciate all the hardwork that must go into all of this. Can't wait to checkout this new pricing plugin.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: srikanthever4u on January 16, 2012, 12:19:57 PM
Hi Milbo,

we are looking quantity breaks (volume pricing) plugin release ,  to checkout this new pricing plugin ?
any idea when this plugin release ?

Thanks

Srikanth
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: joshlfisher on January 23, 2012, 14:40:01 PM
I am wondering if this plugin will support this scenario:

I have a shop with three top-level categories, one of which is Photographs. This category has several child categories (nature, scenic, floral, etc.)

Each product has several attributes:
Single Notecard
Set of 4 notecards
4X6 print
5x7 Print

I want to have a $3 discount applied to the shopping cart whenever multiples of 4 SINGLE NOTECARDS are purchased.  So if a shopper buys 6 single notecards, a single $3 discount is applied. If a shopper buys 8 single notecards, a $6 discount is applied. If the discount has to be per product, the $3 total discount can be translated to a $.75 discount per product for each of the 4 single notecards.

Is this possible?
If not, how much will someone charge me to create this?
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Joan on January 24, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
Any news?
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: joshlfisher on January 29, 2012, 17:44:18 PM
I have posted this in the commercial jobs thread (http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=97006.0)
but have not gotten any replies.

This is a very important piece of the cart I need working.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Joan on February 20, 2012, 13:31:03 PM
I wait 2 months to answer, Bilbo? please, the pluggin?

I need a lot, and I like to pay for it, no problem
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: jan suhr on February 21, 2012, 19:28:30 PM
Same here, been waiting for two months, no reply on PM...

My shop has been ready now for two months and I can't start it until this plugin becomes available.


Jan
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on February 22, 2012, 17:33:39 PM
Please look here, be aware it is only running with the latest 2.0.1 version http://virtuemart.cloudaccess.net/extensions-virtuemart-2/quantity-related-calculation-detail
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: jan suhr on February 22, 2012, 18:15:32 PM
Were can we find 2.0.1, it doesn't show on the download page.

Jan
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: jenkinhill on February 22, 2012, 23:40:11 PM
From http://dev.virtuemart.net/projects/virtuemart/files

And see http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=98112.0


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Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: jan suhr on February 24, 2012, 12:44:03 PM
Has anyone tried this plugin yet?

I bought it a few days ago and the ZIP-file I got is damaged and will  not install  >:(

And I can't get any reply from Milbo on the subject.  >:(

Jan
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on February 24, 2012, 19:17:42 PM
?
I sent you an email, that the download produced broken files, please use your downloadlink again. and I offered you also my skype contact, so I wonder abit
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: jan suhr on February 25, 2012, 13:45:59 PM
Yes!

Thanks that new file worked and installed perfectly.

Great job  ;)

Jan
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: jan suhr on February 25, 2012, 14:08:27 PM
I need an explanatin for how this plugin is supposed to work. Maybe I'm stupid but I can't see how I can set different prices for a single product depending on the quantity the customer order.

For example on product has a gross price of 1049.00 but if you buy more than 10 units it will cost 949.00, another product cost 1499.00 gross and if you buy more than 10 units it will be 1325.00

Firstly it look as I only can set a rule to a category, not for a specific product.

And why should I set up general rules when I need this setting in the product view, for the product?

Have I missed something?


Jan
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: PRO on February 25, 2012, 14:38:04 PM
Quote from: jan suhr on February 25, 2012, 14:08:27 PM
And why should I set up general rules when I need this setting in the product view, for the product?

Have I missed something?


Yes, you have missed that in each product you can assign calculation rules, inside the product
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: jan suhr on February 25, 2012, 14:45:49 PM
Yes I know that but that also means that I have to make one special rule for each product in another view than rather doing it in the product pricing view. See may example and explain how I should do that, I haven't figured it out yet.

Since it is a calculation method it will get quite complicated when I only want to set a price for more than 10 items. Or...?

It is a lot different than the simple way it was done in VM 1.1



Jan
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on February 25, 2012, 14:59:18 PM
But also much more powerful and when oyu know how todo it, it does not take really longer.

But we wanna add some stuff to the gui that it is easier to handle and of course there will be a manual and maybe video tutorial for it soon. I sent you an pm, you may contact me in skype, then I tell you some strategies. We wanna also write that down. :-)
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Puriom on March 04, 2012, 18:43:16 PM
PRE-SALES Question.
I d' like to assign different percentage discounts for different client groups, but with the following options:
- Some categories won't have any discount for any reason.
- If a group member connects as this, he/she won't have a discount added to his/her group's one. The not-registered clients will do have, just p.e. for the category X or product, set as promotion tool.

This method it's the core of my customer oriented business and I would realy appreciate an answer (or an extented payed mod).
Thank you
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on March 04, 2012, 20:46:53 PM
I think you can do that, please read the manual http://virtuemart.cloudaccess.net/images/stories/virtuemart/product/plgvm_istraxx_quantity_manual.pdf
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Puriom on March 05, 2012, 11:00:07 AM
I struggle with the print screen.  ::) But as it is mostly for percentage discounts, it needs programming skills, which I don't have. (Payed programmer suggestion accepted.)
Thank you very much. :)
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: matthewod01 on March 19, 2012, 22:23:04 PM
Milbo

I downloaded and installed the quantity pricing plugin without problem.  I am trying to figure out how to use this though.  Do we have some instructions available yet? 

I am guessing the Min/Max are for the quantities of the item.  The Over Write Value is the price per item, but I am not sure what Modus: Amount Condition means or how to use this.   Is this for a character/function - + = %  or a numeric condition?  How do I set additional price breaks for the same rule?  In your screen shot there were 2 lines for min/max and overwrite value. 

I was able to assign the calculation to the exact product, which is pretty cool.  However I am dealing with over 450 products! 

I am sure this is easy once we get the hang of it like how the product otions are different from VM 1.

Thank you!

Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: matthewod01 on March 19, 2012, 22:26:30 PM
I forgot to mention I am also getting an error in the mini cart for the product I am dealing with:

"Warning: Division by zero in /home/wereport/public_html/plugins/vmcalculation/istraxx_quantity/istraxx_quantity.php on line 216"

This may be just an error because of how I have the calculation setup, which is probably incorrect!

Thanks
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: matthewod01 on March 21, 2012, 23:01:49 PM
I have been trying to follow the example in the PDF instructions, http://virtuemart.cloudaccess.net/images/stories/virtuemart/product/plgvm_istraxx_quantity_manual.pdf.  But something is not working correctly.  The discount is not showing up at all.  There is no variation of the price. 

I enclosed a screen shot of my quantity discount that I am trying to add. 

Basically I want to give a 10% discount for quantities > 4 and < 11.  And I want to give a 15% discount to quantities between 12 and 20.

I have tried many variations of this and nothing seems to be working.

thanks for the help!

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Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: matthewod01 on April 06, 2012, 04:24:28 AM
Milbo
I'm getting the hang of the quantity price through the algorithm, which is pretty neat.  Is there a way to actually display the available quantity pricing on the products page?  This way we can actually show the customers 'the more you shop the more you save'!!  Would like to show price breaks on the product page.

Thanks for all the help!
Matt
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: PRO on April 06, 2012, 15:07:59 PM
Quote from: matthewod01 on March 21, 2012, 23:01:49 PM
I


what happens when you take off the shopper groups?

what happens when you set the "dimension unit" to something besides 0?

What happens when you set it to "tax per product"   ?
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on April 06, 2012, 15:31:23 PM
You do not have a max quantity and then you have value 0. So you get always no discount. Pm me, when you have still problems matthewod01
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: BaidareW on April 15, 2012, 08:54:03 AM
VM 2.0.5, joomla 2.5.4

I am using quantity plugin. It works well, but I noticed that it gives discount for the products that do not have the rule for this discount.. It seems that i remember that it was set once (for all product category, but now it is removed) and even after delete in the backed it still keeps discount.

What is the solution here ?

Milbo - I send you e-mail with site details.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: PRO on April 16, 2012, 18:24:09 PM
Quote from: BaidareW on April 15, 2012, 08:54:03 AM
VM 2.0.5, joomla 2.5.4

I am using quantity plugin. It works well, but I noticed that it gives discount for the products that do not have the rule for this discount.. It seems that i remember that it was set once (for all product category, but now it is removed) and even after delete in the backed it still keeps discount.

What is the solution here ?

Milbo - I send you e-mail with site details.

create an unpublished category to assign these discounted products to,

THEN, in the calculation rule, assign it to that category

Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: BaidareW on April 16, 2012, 23:15:36 PM

create an unpublished category to assign these discounted products to,

THEN, in the calculation rule, assign it to that category
[/quote]

I should create unpublished category for the products that has no discount rules or for products that have already discount rule ? Those products that has discount rule works fine, the problem is with products without any rule.

So I should create unpublished category and add there ALL my products without any discount rule ? It will be quite a lot of work..

Sorry fore not getting it from first time.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: PRO on April 17, 2012, 15:01:57 PM
Quote from: BaidareW on April 16, 2012, 23:15:36 PM


I should create unpublished category for the products that has no discount rules or for products that have already discount rule ? Those products that has discount rule works fine, the problem is with products without any rule.

So I should create unpublished category and add there ALL my products without any discount rule ? It will be quite a lot of work..

Sorry fore not getting it from first time.



I have a category called

"10 or more"
I have a discount of when you buy 10 or more of a product., and assign the discount to "10 or more" category only.

THEN, assign the products that I want to have the 10 or more discount to the "10 or more category"

Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: BaidareW on April 17, 2012, 21:57:56 PM
For me it is very weird when product without any discount rule has discount! (I am talking about quantity plugin discounts).

I think it is a bug. It should be like this : product (or category if set in the rule) has quantity discount if the rule is assigned to product (or to category inside the rule), but now I got discount without rule also.

Also sometimes I delete the rule, save, refresh and I got the rule again but I didn't selected it.. Some kind of bug also (related to the discount being applied without any rule) ?

One solution is to create empty rule and assign to product that should not have any discount.

Could you investigate this situation ?
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: Milbo on April 18, 2012, 00:32:34 AM
?

No, you do not understand the calculation rules. When you create a calculation rule, without any dependency, it counts everytime for all products. For example the tax.

When you want that no rule counts for a product, use the calculation rule override in the product edit.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: timebass on April 27, 2012, 02:13:09 AM
Hello, I have the plugin installed correctly, but I need a discount for the total of different products.

is it possible?

how?

thanks
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: ssears on May 21, 2012, 21:54:46 PM
I would also like to produce a discount based on the total quantity of products out of a category.  Is this possible with the quantity plugin and if so what are the settings?
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: oxygen_uk on June 11, 2012, 01:38:55 AM
HI

i have the plugin installed and its working like a treat when i go in to checkout,,,

my question is does it allow you to show  the discount value on the products detail view?

this is very urgent...

Ali
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: PRO on June 11, 2012, 21:31:20 PM
Quote from: oxygen_uk on June 11, 2012, 01:38:55 AM
HI

i have the plugin installed and its working like a treat when i go in to checkout,,,

my question is does it allow you to show  the discount value on the products detail view?

this is very urgent...

Ali


it is not setup that way
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: oxygen_uk on June 12, 2012, 00:17:26 AM
Quote from: BanquetTables.pro on June 11, 2012, 21:31:20 PM
Quote from: oxygen_uk on June 11, 2012, 01:38:55 AM
HI

i have the plugin installed and its working like a treat when i go in to checkout,,,

my question is does it allow you to show  the discount value on the products detail view?

this is very urgent...

Ali


it is not setup that way

Can it be developed if so what is the cost?
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: w2kr on November 29, 2012, 03:20:18 AM
Sorry for the old post

But did we get a resolution to the question of timebass
"Hello, I have the plugin installed correctly, but I need a discount for the total of different products."

Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: bytelord on November 29, 2012, 03:40:48 AM
http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=79799.0
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: w2kr on November 29, 2012, 04:01:41 AM
so my setup is
joomla 2.5.8
virtuemart 2.0.11
Plugin VMCALCULATION_VMISTRAXX_QUANTITY  2.0.2

Working fine on the discount of a product volume but need to to work when the total cart quantity eg combination of different product is over the quantity define. eg mixed dozen of wines need to have a discount.
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: killarney on May 04, 2013, 04:06:45 AM
did you get the solution for wine i mean 6 bottle purchase discount. how to apply it
Title: Re: Missing pricing feature: quantity breaks (volume pricing)
Post by: w2kr on May 04, 2013, 07:59:42 AM
This addon did the job for me
http://awodev.com/documentation/awocoupon-pro/coupons