Is there any plan for publishing VM for Joomla 3.xx?
I would like to build my new product site with shop. When should I plan using virtuemart in my 3.xx projects?
kind regards
Why did you not simply search the forum? http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=115326.0
jenkinhill, he probably did (as was I), but all that info is almost 1 year old. And if all those posts are still correct, we can expect VM to have support for 3.* next month? That's great, even though, 3.5 release date was moved to fall, and 3.3 (which is not LTR) is announced to be released on April 1st.
I asked Joomla developer about the delay and that some components are waiting for LTR and the response was:
QuoteThat's bad habit of them. 3.x isn't a beta. How can we encourage then to write for 3.x?
A component written for 3.0 will run as well on 3.5. One doesn't have to rewrite it.
QuoteThat's bad habit of them. 3.x isn't a beta. How can we encourage then to write for 3.x?
A component written for 3.0 will run as well on 3.5. One doesn't have to rewrite it.
Hmm, so anything written for 3.x requires NO changes to run on 3.5, why am I not so sure that this will be the case??
LTR going back suggest more than a few things still to be finalised.
Jumping on the first VM release for 3.x is worth a try but be aware that it will be a FIRST release.
Sorry sirs, you can intrpret me as lazy and difficult, but sorry, I have to ask...
In the roadmap in the December 2013 Joomla 3.5 was shown as to be released in March 2014.
So, we have March now, how can I get any informations about VM for Joomla 3? Maybe there will be any changes, as someone told about J3.3 earlier?
Thank you
Joomla 3.5 has not yet been released.
I would anticipate that the first VM version that was scheduled for this release would likewise not be available until joomla release 3.5 :)
The release of Joomla 3.5 has been put off for 6 months by the Joomla development team, and a release of 3.3 (another short term supported version) has been scheduled to take place on 1st April with the requirement for PHP5.3.10 minimum, http://developer.joomla.org/news/577-planning-for-joomla-3-3.html
An alternative update in the 3.2 series for people still using older PHP versions has, I believe, also been scheduled for the same date......
Along with this change in Joomla release cycle, the VM devs have been working hard to get VM2.5 into stable release for use with Joomla 2.5.x and then get back to working on VM2.1.1 which already installs on J3.2 will may later become VM3 - or whatever the revised numbering system requires.
Thank you for your replies,
Could you please confirm if I understand correctly:
As the release 3.5 of Joomla is delayed about 6 months the VM Developers working on the version for Joomla 3.3 which should be released about April 2014 and about this date should be availiable stable versions of Virtuemart for Joomla 3?
Is that correct, that VM needs php 5.3 enabled? Is this the limitation? I have my portal on php 5.3 and it work - so is that correct that I can try to implement VM just now as beta version?
What is the problem to use Joomla 3 and VM right now?
I know and understand that it is very dfficult to answer on my questions but I would like to organise my nearest months and decide what to do with eshop which I would like to have built into my Joomla.
Look at the joomla recommendations for php
That is the base system your VM is working within.
http://www.joomla.org/technical-requirements.html (http://www.joomla.org/technical-requirements.html)
VM will run in 5.3.x
For security reasons, next VM versions require 5.3.10 as minimum, but 5.4 is recommended.
So, what is the propblem to use php 5.3 or 5.4 with Joomla 3 now ?
Is this is only one problem to use VM on actual Joomlas 3.2?
Treet
There is no public VM release for Joomla 3 (any version) That is the current state.
When it is released, it is recommended to use php 5.4 as I guess that is what the devs are working with, consequently they are unlikely to confirm the stability on 5.3.x. Or test it for prior versions of PHP and note what the problems might be, hat would be a complete waste of their development effort.
To find the recommendations for joomla read the joomla org docs.
http://www.joomla.org/technical-requirements.html (http://www.joomla.org/technical-requirements.html)
Will there be other problems (no idea, but run your test plans thoroughly yourself and you will see if it works for your specific configuration).
If you are waiting for a Joomla 3 ready version then maybe the devs can put a date on that, I think that this is driven, in part, by the quality and quantity of testers and therefore is likely to be fluid.
php5.3.10! we recommend php5.3.26 or later. VM3 runs on j2.5 and j3.2
VM3?
Thank you for your helpfull answers,
so, as I understand I should push php 5.3.2.6 and try to install any of Virtuemart 2.1 packages? MAybe other version ?
No, just wait until Monday or so and install the vm2.9, you could use vm2.1 to get an impression. First we release the vm2.5.2 as vm2.6 and then we concentrate on vm3 again.
Isn't it a very steep jump from current 2.0.26d to 2.5.2? Have I missed something?
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hello,
I think that is later that monday few weeks ago - did we have any new informations? What shoul I do now? What Joomla should I use for test ? I am still on 3.1.5...
regards
bump?
you got a pn
For anyone wondering what the answer is to the OP's question is.
VM for Joomla 3.x will not be released until Joomla 3.5 is released.
So for new development. VM is not an option at this time.
You'll just have to advise clients that they will need to choose a different cart system or use the legacy Joomla 2.5 version with VirtueMart 2.
Edit by Milbo:
Hey man, what do you tell for nonsense? VirtueMart 3 is already there and you can play with it. It will take not even 4 weeks for the first release candidate. I really wonder who told you this nonsense above and why do you think it is correct to spread lies against us?
Joomla 2.5 is not legacy, it is a long term supported release of Joomla, and with the reported delay in the release of J3.5 it appears 2.5 will be supported into next year.
If you want to help with further development & bugfixing of VM2.9, the J3.x version then send Milbo a PM.
Thank you for the offer.
Unfortunately I don't have any time.
40hrs + Freelance nights and weekends.
That is a great opportunity for the right person.
I didn't mean use legacy as a derogatory term.
It is still functional and stable by every right.
By legacy, I only meant that it is used on many existing sights but is not the current stable release.
There is no responsive template and no HTML 5 template built in Joomla 2.5 at this date that is legacy.
As a consultant, knowing that 40% of online retail is done using a mobile device, you have to admit that 2.5 is a legacy CMS unless a substantial framework is attached that is not supported by VM development.
Reference (http://marketingland.com/report-nearly-40-percent-of-internet-time-now-on-mobile-devices-34639)
Facts are facts. We can't deny them simply because we don't like them.
Quote from: WmRickert on March 28, 2014, 19:50:03 PM
As a consultant, knowing that 40% of online retail is done using a mobile device, you have to admit that 2.5 is a legacy CMS unless a substantial framework is attached that is not supported by VM development.
Nothing easier than getting Joomla 2.5 and VM 2 running on a mobile device, you just need to make a good template. Once you have one template standing, you can replicate that for any other need. It is not magic.
Stefan
Quote from: WmRickert on March 28, 2014, 19:50:03 PM
Thank you for the offer.
Unfortunately I don't have any time.
40hrs + Freelance nights and weekends.
Only 40 hours. You have plenty of free time.
Quote from: WmRickert on March 28, 2014, 19:50:03 PM
There is no responsive template and no HTML 5 template built in Joomla 2.5 at this date that is legacy.
Non serious webdeveloper is using the standard template. The normal way is anyway to buy a nice template. btw beez5 is the delivered standard template and using html5.
Quote from: WmRickert on March 28, 2014, 19:50:03 PM
As a consultant, knowing that 40% of online retail is done using a mobile device,
The consultant who thinks that people use the example template. The same consultant who tells people that mobile abilities depends on the used php system.
Mobile abilities are mainly done by the template, regardless which CMS or Ecommerce system.
I really wonder who the gentle told people that being mobile ready is the responsibility of their used cms. I wonder since an half year that suddenly people ask for that. As long you are in the world of browsers the stuff is done by your view, which is written in html. No it is not PHP. PHP is an interpreter which writes the html for you.
Joomla 3 is by definition not stable for me. A system which has a big ecosystem like joomla cannot have a stable release maintained for 6 months. Do you would call a car with a garantee of 6 months stable? Why do they have joomla 3.0, 3.1 and so on? This are the Short Term Releases. The reason is that they want to experiment new ideas, API changes and similar. The idea is to implement something in j3.0 and to test it. If there are problems they enhance it, change it, remove it, whatever.
Take a look on Akeeba. The new versions are NOT compatible to j3.0 and j3.1 anylonger. Do you really want to setup a system which must be updated within the next 4-5 months? For serious people like us ecommerce guys a STR is nothing to consider seriously.
Does is support joomla 3.3?
The first beta of J3.3 is due to be released April 1 - until this is available it is not possible to test VM2.1/9 or any other extensions on that version. As has been reported there is slippage on the release dates of Joomla versions, so although end of April is currently the proposed release of 3.3 stable, this be later than that.
In the meantime J2.5 is the only Joomla verion in LTS status, to be supported until at least the end of 2014. The dates in this article are already wrong: http://docs.joomla.org/What_version_of_Joomla!_should_you_use%3F
Excuse me if this is the wrong place for this question...is there any update on the timetable for release of stable VM3 to work with Joomla 3.3.x? I'm committed to using Joomla 3.3.x for a new site, and would like some sense whether I need to abandon VM3 for a different solution as my desired go-live date approaches. Thanks for any info anyone can provide.
kmeyer that sounds great that you are looking to use VM 3 with Joomla.
Like the rest of us the timeline depends on the users. The more people that test the versions 2.9.+ the faster we get to to three.
* Please, I encourage you, like everyone, to look at a post that someone has written about version 2.9.+ and test issue
If you find a problem - write a post about it.. .
Everyone uses VM - in a different way.. some have different payment options, some shipping, some (variants - no longer the same name).
* I discover new problems and new solutions everyday. VM is an ever evolving piece of software - like all software.
* I see an article about IPhones today - some bend in the middle, some cannot stand the hot temperatures of cars.. I bet Apple are now thinking they should have done a little more testing..
* At the moment I am only a ( coupon short) of perfection for a shop I am trialing. - I think it is so close.
But I test all the options I can and encourage all to do the same.
Thank you for your encouragement, and yes I will post issues I find.
I understand that no software is bug-free. I was under the impression that 2.9.9b/c was a release candidate, and that an actual release would be forthcoming. Is that correct? If so, is anyone on the development team willing to risk a guess as to how many days/weeks/months are likely to pass before a release candidate is declared "golden"? Thank you again for your info.
Our own shop works with vm2.9 already. The d version could have been our release, but atm there is no way to update for people with the stockable plugin and I think that should be solved first.