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VirtueMart 2 + 3 => General Questions => Topic started by: komir on March 29, 2013, 09:27:25 am

Title: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: komir on March 29, 2013, 09:27:25 am
Hello everyone
now, I cant figured, is there any version what can be installed on joomla 3?
I try with last version 2.0.2 http://dev.virtuemart.net/projects/virtuemart/files but, get install error
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JInstaller: :Install: Cannot find Joomla XML setup file
Found this topic
http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=114320.0
but, maybe, is there any beta for joomla 3.0?
Best regards
Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: jenkinhill on March 29, 2013, 12:10:49 pm
No. That is currently planned for 2.4 - http://dev.virtuemart.net/projects/virtuemart/wiki/Roadmap ie within the time that J3 goes to LTR version, which will be J3.5 - but changes regularly occur to the forward planning.
Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: Milbo on April 29, 2013, 21:23:08 pm

I try with last version 2.0.2 http://dev.virtuemart.net/projects/virtuemart/files but, get install error
2.0.20 is the last version, NOT 2.0.2
Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: SBS_JR on April 30, 2013, 15:34:56 pm
So I am working on setting up a new site for a company over the next couple weeks.  As of now I will have to go Joomla 2.5, but if this is close to production then maybe I should go 3.0?  How close are we to J3 compatibility
Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: jjk on April 30, 2013, 16:28:38 pm
As mentioned in the above links already, J3 compatibility is scheduled for J3.5 and the Joomla roadmap currently says this:
http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leadership/1711-its-official-joomla-cms-to-add-32-release.html
Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: westwing on July 02, 2013, 01:39:28 am
its too slow! Joomla themselves recommend new sites be built in J3 and I have rolled out many. I need a cart now and I don't want to have to use J2.5 and face both a VM / Joomla upgrade so soon after launch.

VM is slipping down the rankings on the Joomla Extensions site too ....  Its a cop out to say you are going to wait for a stable 3.5 release .... too late then. You are behind the ball .....
Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: AH on July 02, 2013, 09:38:34 am
Why are you so desperate to move to a non stable release of Joomla. The team have stated VM will be available for Joomla 3.5.  There is a limited amount of man hours for development and I am sure that these are best focused on a single version of Joomla rather than being spread between 2 versions!!

I do not see in the text from Joomla the overriding pressure to do everything on Joomla 3?

Which version is best for me?

For most new sites, the Joomla! 3 series is the preferred series and starting on it avoids a mini-migration from Joomla 2.5 later down the road. Starting on the Joomla 3 series for a new site, also provides you with longer backward compatible support (with one-click upgrades) than starting a new site on 2.5 right now, because support for the Joomla 3 series ends in 2016.

When starting a new site, please plan ahead and check to make sure that any extensions (including templates) that you plan to use are Joomla 3 compatible. If not, then Joomla 2.5 still provides you a well supported option in the meantime.

Sites that are currently on Joomla 2.5 are encouraged to stay on 2.5, until Joomla 3.5’s release, unless they need to be moved over sooner to take advantage of Joomla 3’s new features. We’ve provided a one-click upgrade from Joomla 2.5 to any Joomla 3 version and you just have to make sure that all your extensions are compatible before upgrading.

Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: jjk on July 02, 2013, 11:16:32 am
Hutson was quicker with typing a reply, but here is my opionion, too:  ;)

its too slow! Joomla themselves recommend new sites be built in J3 and I have rolled out many. I need a cart now and I don't want to have to use J2.5 and face both a VM / Joomla upgrade so soon after launch.
I disagree. Joomla 3.x still is in its infancy stage (like 1.6 and 1.7 was for 2.5.x) and many things are subject to change until the long term support version 3.5 will be released. Versions prior to 3.5 are supported only for a period of 7 months each and are primarily meant for developers who want to test their extensions and users who get along with Joomla 3.x built in features. A comprehensive shopping cart extension like VM2 contains many thousand lines of code which have to work reliable for professional shops. It also has to maintain compatibility with important third party extensions like i.e. payment solutions. It's not just a tiny extension with a hundred lines of code which can be adapted to a new Joomla version within a few hours. And at present it is not even clear, which versions of external libraries (i.e. Mootools, JQuery, Bootstrap, etc.) will be built into Joomla 3.5. So from the developer's point of view, it doesn't make a lot of sense to waste a lot of time to reach compatibility with a Joomla version for which support is ending soon.

Once you have your own live shop with maybe a 1000+ products, I bet you will experience that following all available updates quickly becomes a pain because of the amount of work involved and the number of avoidable compatibility problems it generates. BTW - Joomla's own website still is running on version 2.5 for similar reasons.
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VM is slipping down the rankings on the Joomla Extensions site too ....  Its a cop out to say you are going to wait for a stable 3.5 release .... too late then. You are behind the ball .....
For experienced VirtueMart users it is pretty obvious that the ranking in the JED is primarily due to a lack of knowledge on the part of it's novice users or semi-professionals who are upset because they were unable to implement a (not yet existing) very special feature their client insisted on. VirtueMart's strength is it's flexibility. It primarily aims to serve as a 'shop construction kit', which comprises a longer learning curve than some of it's competitors aiming at shop owners who just want a simple, easy to use standard shopping cart solution, that works out of the box.

This is imho the major reason why certain other shopping carts are ranking higher in the JED. The users of the VM's competitors made the right decision concerning what they need, while most negative reviews for VirtueMart are coming from users who made the wrong decision for their individual needs right at the start.

The vast majority of many thousands of happy VirtueMart users never get the idea to write a review in the JED. Last time I searched for the number of VirtueMart 2 shops in the internet using one of Google's advanced (hidden) search features, it came up with 189000 english language VM2 shops.
Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: stavroch on July 07, 2013, 14:18:06 pm
When the new version of vm will be ready to be installed in Joomla 3?
Title: Re: Virtuemart and joomla 3
Post by: jenkinhill on July 07, 2013, 15:00:37 pm
http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=115326