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Started by sjstv, November 17, 2016, 20:59:16 PM

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sjstv

Hello all. Completely new to Virtuemart but I have been left to pick up the pieces from somebody else's design. To be fair, it all works well but SEO is poor and Google seems to pick up entries from anywhere but the actual item.

Attached an example but other items I've checked can go up to 20 entries without listing the –detail page.

Question is, is this something with the way we have Virtuemart set up with the URLs including everything like the example. https://www.sjstv.co.uk/all-categories/t-con-boards/2581/6871l-3966e-6870c-0532c-t-con-lg-43lh604v-detail

Or is it on the Google end of things with the parameter settings or something?

Any suggestions welcome.

GJC Web Design

GJC Web Design
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sjstv

Thanks for the helpful tips on using the forum.
Using Joomla 3.3.3
VM 3.0.2

Search was for the manufacturers part number, 6871L-3966E, which is the best way to find the correct part. This one is fairly recent but as other sellers start listing it, we will slip down the Google list.

GJC Web Design

GJC Web Design
VirtueMart and Joomla Developers - php developers https://www.gjcwebdesign.com
VM4 AusPost Shipping Plugin - e-go Shipping Plugin - VM4 Postcode Shipping Plugin - Radius Shipping Plugin - VM4 NZ Post Shipping Plugin - AusPost Estimator
Samport Payment Plugin - EcomMerchant Payment Plugin - ccBill payment Plugin
VM2 Product Lock Extension - VM2 Preconfig Adresses Extension - TaxCloud USA Taxes Plugin - Virtuemart  Product Review Component
https://extensions.joomla.org/profile/profile/details/67210
Contact for any VirtueMart or Joomla development & customisation

sjstv

Thanks. I didn't know any of that. Looks like I have a steep learning curve.  :o

Virtually all of the results for any product links to the category, sitemap etc. It's difficult to find an entry that links to the actual product page. Found this one but expected all our items to be listed like this.

Other websites similar to ours only have the product link listed, not all the categories, print, email pages etc. As a complete novice, it seems that Google is looking at the wrong info.

GJC Web Design

Hmmm.. I admit.. it is hard to see why google returns  e.g for a search of  6871L-3966E

https://www.sjstv.co.uk/all-categories/by,category_name/results,2141-2340?virtuemart_product_id=350

&

https://www.sjstv.co.uk/all-categories/by,category_name/results,2161-2200?virtuemart_product_id=367

as 6871L-3966E isn't even on these pages even in the source

the correct page https://www.sjstv.co.uk/all-categories/t-con-boards/2581/6871l-3966e-6870c-0532c-t-con-lg-43lh604v-detail    and   6871L-3966E   appears 4 times

the html title is there and the canonical link
<meta name="title" content="6871L-3966E (6870C-0532C) T.Con LG 43LH604V">

there is even a sitemap with the search phrase

makes no sense to me
GJC Web Design
VirtueMart and Joomla Developers - php developers https://www.gjcwebdesign.com
VM4 AusPost Shipping Plugin - e-go Shipping Plugin - VM4 Postcode Shipping Plugin - Radius Shipping Plugin - VM4 NZ Post Shipping Plugin - AusPost Estimator
Samport Payment Plugin - EcomMerchant Payment Plugin - ccBill payment Plugin
VM2 Product Lock Extension - VM2 Preconfig Adresses Extension - TaxCloud USA Taxes Plugin - Virtuemart  Product Review Component
https://extensions.joomla.org/profile/profile/details/67210
Contact for any VirtueMart or Joomla development & customisation

sjstv

Oh dear. If you don't know, then I have little chance of understanding it. Could it be something in the parameters?
This is what I've found.

GJC Web Design

I'd do No URLs for

limit, start, limitstart, error, print, searchword, searchphrase  as a start
GJC Web Design
VirtueMart and Joomla Developers - php developers https://www.gjcwebdesign.com
VM4 AusPost Shipping Plugin - e-go Shipping Plugin - VM4 Postcode Shipping Plugin - Radius Shipping Plugin - VM4 NZ Post Shipping Plugin - AusPost Estimator
Samport Payment Plugin - EcomMerchant Payment Plugin - ccBill payment Plugin
VM2 Product Lock Extension - VM2 Preconfig Adresses Extension - TaxCloud USA Taxes Plugin - Virtuemart  Product Review Component
https://extensions.joomla.org/profile/profile/details/67210
Contact for any VirtueMart or Joomla development & customisation

sjstv

Done that and also set 'Itemid' to Every URL. Is that a good idea?

Guess it's just wait and see now. Many thanks for your help.

Studio 42

I think all No URLs, if you use SEF but not "start".
With SEF active, In all other cases, the same page should be already be indexed with right SEF link.

sjstv

SEF. I hadn't thought about that. Had a look and JoomSEF is enabled but Virtuemart is a €10 extension which has never been installed.

So buy the extension, turn off everything in Google apart from 'start' which leave as Google Decides. Is that the right way to go?

GJC Web Design

throw away any and all SEF extensions.. they are not required for Joomla3/VM3

they just further complicate matters, produce eventually a huge over head of url mappings etc etc.. waste of time and money

the native SEF works perfectly out of the box  as u can see from the url

https://www.sjstv.co.uk/all-categories/t-con-boards/2581/6871l-3966e-6870c-0532c-t-con-lg-43lh604v-detail

GJC Web Design
VirtueMart and Joomla Developers - php developers https://www.gjcwebdesign.com
VM4 AusPost Shipping Plugin - e-go Shipping Plugin - VM4 Postcode Shipping Plugin - Radius Shipping Plugin - VM4 NZ Post Shipping Plugin - AusPost Estimator
Samport Payment Plugin - EcomMerchant Payment Plugin - ccBill payment Plugin
VM2 Product Lock Extension - VM2 Preconfig Adresses Extension - TaxCloud USA Taxes Plugin - Virtuemart  Product Review Component
https://extensions.joomla.org/profile/profile/details/67210
Contact for any VirtueMart or Joomla development & customisation

sjstv

OK. So back to plan A and wait a few days to see what Google does I guess.

Not sure how it will help for the actual products to be listed but will wait and see.

GJC Web Design

in any CMS or shopping software there are multiple ways to access the same page depending on how u get there

your products are in Google.. just not prominently enough displayed and all sorts of weird ones have been indexed .. like search results .. and are returned

GJC Web Design
VirtueMart and Joomla Developers - php developers https://www.gjcwebdesign.com
VM4 AusPost Shipping Plugin - e-go Shipping Plugin - VM4 Postcode Shipping Plugin - Radius Shipping Plugin - VM4 NZ Post Shipping Plugin - AusPost Estimator
Samport Payment Plugin - EcomMerchant Payment Plugin - ccBill payment Plugin
VM2 Product Lock Extension - VM2 Preconfig Adresses Extension - TaxCloud USA Taxes Plugin - Virtuemart  Product Review Component
https://extensions.joomla.org/profile/profile/details/67210
Contact for any VirtueMart or Joomla development & customisation

Studio 42

I can find some of your products in google.
try my tool : http://shop.st42.fr/en/tools/virtuemart-2-sitemap.htm to add the site map(it work with vm2 and vm3)