vmallinone 1.9.8d problem

[jjk]

Just tried to install mod_virtuemart_allinone.1.9.8d.zip on J1.7. Currently it fails with this message:

JInstaller: :Install: File does not exist ...\tmp\install_4e3ce74fc1a3e\install.vmallinone.php
Component Install: Could not copy PHP install file.
Error installing component

[franzpeter]

It does not make a lot of sense to care about Joomla 1.7, It is just an interim Joomla. So the more important thing is to make VM 2 compatible with Joomla 1.8. But that can happen only if Joomla 1.8 is available. I think the developers of Virtuemart should continue to make VM 2 stable and fully functional. If done and if Joomla 1.8 (stable) is available it makes sense to care about compatibilty issues, but not before.

[jjk]

I don't agree  ...at present it looks like the next Joomla version will be labled "2.5" and I'm not going to start a new VM2 shop based on J1.5 and deal with the trouble to migrate all non-VM2 stuff again from J1.5.23 to J1.6.5 to J1.7 to (probably) J2.5 a few months later.
http://people.joomla.org/groups/viewdiscussion/1276-vote-for-the-version.html?groupid=714

[jjk]

If I unzip mod_virtuemart_allinone.1.9.8d.zip into the J1.7root/tmp/allinone directory (created /allinone manually), copy the install.vmallinone.php into this tmp and then try to "Install from Directory", the first error is gone but I get:

Component Install: DB function reports no errors
JFolder: :delete: Path is not a folder. Path: ...\administrator\components\com_vm_all-in-one\languageFE
JFolder: :delete: Path is not a folder. Path: ...\administrator\components\com_vm_all-in-one\languageBE
JFolder: :delete: Path is not a folder. Path: ...\administrator\components\com_vm_all-in-one\modules
JFolder: :delete: Path is not a folder. Path: ...\administrator\components\com_vm_all-in-one\plugins

[crashball]

Same issue here. I was having issues getting the allinone 1.9.8c installed and i had hoped 1.9.8d  would fix it.  But looks like it has its own different issues.  Doesn't look like the plugins have updated code, but the installer has definately changed.

Any way to get this baby installed? I am chompin at the bit to get testing with this so we can lauch our store front.

[BananaMock007]

I have exactly the same issue..is there the chance to get a working combination of joomla and virtuemart soon? I wouldn't like to wait for joomla 1.8 coming out.

regards

[jjk]

...looks like at present there are more people interested in a J1.7/VM2 combination than in a J1.5/VM2 combination. But maybe I'm wrong

[BananaMock007]

What?? does that mean that nobody really considers the combination Joomla 1.7 - VM2 ?
hmm... maybe I should step back to the old combination Joomla 1.5 - VM1.1.9. ..at least to bring the webshop online.

Though, I donīt like the idea to do the work in half a year again..hmm..

[franzpeter]

There are just 2 longterm releases for Joomla:
Joomla 1.5.23 with support until April 2012
and from January 2012 there will be Joomla 1.8/2.5 as longterm release.

I am not a Virtuemart Developer, just a user, and all I can say is that I would not use VM 2 for a productive shop. I would say VM 2 is a public beta test version, where a lot of things do work, but a lot of necessary parts do not work. If VM 2.1 (the first stable release) will be available (maybe in Q4 of that year), Joomla 1.8 will not be ready. I am pretty shure if Joomla 1.8 becomes published, VM 2 will be ready too for that version. It is more important to remove bugs and continue the developement to make VM 2 to a stable public version, instead of trying to make VM 2 beta (which has bugs or not finished functions) compatible with the buggy Joomla 1.7 code.

For all those, who complain about lack of compatibility with Joomla 1.7 there are some other shopping carts for Joomla which say, that they work with J 1.7 or to write an own shopping cart solution.
Just my opinion!

[crashball]

The only other cart for 1.7 i have found is JoomShopping and their whole website is in german. Not exaclty easy to find support. If you know of others in the mean time i'm open to suggestion

I have seen in previous posts that VM recommended moving to 1.7 if you were on 1.6 previously, so that to me sounds as if they are developing for 1.7. and 1.7 is an interim step before 1.8.

I guess in the mean time i can stick with my Etsy shop and joomla module for that. 

Is there a way to manually install the allinone module?

[Invictus Staff]

bump for manual installation

[Milbo]

If VM 2.1 (the first stable release) will be available (maybe in Q4 of that year)

In our system odd numbers are not stable versions. Officially we are at version 1.9.9

Joomla 1.8 will not be ready. I am pretty shure if Joomla 1.8 becomes published, VM 2 will be ready too for that version. It is more important to remove bugs and continue the developement to make VM 2 to a stable public version, instead of trying to make VM 2 beta (which has bugs or not finished functions) compatible with the buggy Joomla 1.7 code.

The problem is the buggy j1.7 code. There are a lot exampels.

Here some hints for manual installation:

http://dev.virtuemart.net/projects/virtuemart/wiki/Manual_installationupdate_of_VM2

http://dev.virtuemart.net/projects/virtuemart/wiki/Plugin_system

but you can expect next days a new release with working installers

[franzpeter]

@Milbo,
so does it make any sense to invest a lot of brain to make it compatible with buggy j1.7? I do not understand why it is so important to use Joomla 1.7 instead of waiting for Joomla 1.8( long term supported version). For a shop owner and for the customers of that shop it is important that the ecommerce software (in our case Virtuemart) works fine and the customer can enjoy a good shopping cart experience. I don't think that a customer cares about, which Joomla version is used?

[Milbo]

We tried to point shopowners  to the point that j1.7 should not be used by an ecommerce system. Ecommerce people should think a bit conservative. But too many people test with j1.7 and being compatible with j1.7 is important to keep up to date for j1.8/j12.5.

The all in one installer is imho done. Last time we shot  to fast a new version, so we take a bit more time for the next subrelease. The all in one installer is being tested since a week,

For j1.7 we changed all js stuff to jquery. This was hard work and broke also some j1.5 functions, but now we are quite finished with it.