Joomla vs. Virtue Mart logins?? Maybe a summary?

[hostricity]

I'm new to VM. We are using Joomla 1.5.3 and VM 1.1

This site will be low traffic, and a limited amount of items for sale.

What I really need right now is:

• The ability to sell a few products.
• No more than one registration to make a purchase.
• No reqistration required at all would be OK.
• Definitely no requirement to activate an acccount via an email.
• A captcha would be fine and desirable if a registration is required.

Eventually, we will likely want to upgrade this to capture more and better user / customer / member info. For the moment, that doesn't seem to be practical, so...

Given what actually works and doesn't work at the moment, what configuration can I use?

Thanks,

Geoff

[korb]

I can say that your needs can be done excelent, but how to, is like a terrible work to do.
I would recomand to read documentation, links in my signature.
Ciao

[hostricity]

I've read the documentation. That isn't the problem.

What I am asking is this: Is there a configuration that doesn't require two registrations that actually works?

I was having problems with things not working and this forum is loaded with user and registration problems.

So, has anyone figured out user and registration settings that actually work? If so, what?

[korb]

Joomla account activation must be off.
Joomla login module must be desabled.
VirtueMart login module must be enabled.

This configuration is basic according to manuals. No errors. A single user login and full functional.

[hostricity]

OK. What configuration is that? Do I use VM login? Do I allow or disable Joomla login? If it is VirtueMart login, do I use regular, silent, or what? Can I turn off the email verification?

If you read this forum, you will see numerous posts about the problems with user and registration.

I'm asking if anyone has actually gotten it to work and if so which settings did they use?

[korb]

Am I speacking chinese? What I wrote for you is exactly what you must do.

[alexh]

Your settings work, sort of, but it seems that when set to these settings, at least for me, that the purchase appears to go through, but doesn't send customer to PayPal page... And if I turn off registration completely I get an error that says it needs to be enabled in order for it to push to PayPal.

Using new 1.1.1 patch with Joomla 1.5.2. I thought 1.1.1 was supposed to fix this issue.

[hostricity]

Korb:

You are obvisouly unwilling to provide the information I have requested. I am asking about ACTUAL SETTINGS IN USE ON ACTUAL VM SITES WHICH WORK CORRECTLY.

Please stop wasting my time by replying repeatedly and stubbornly that I must read the manuals or claiming that everything works correctly.

I understand how it is supposed to work. I want to know what ACTUALLY WORKS.

I am not speaking Chinese, so I would appreciate it if you would honor my request and harass someone else. Please stop wasting my time with useless responses.

Thank you,

Geoff

[Ameise Ink]

Hi there,

If you find out the specifics, I'd really appreciate if you post it!!! I have tried so many VM vs J options my head is hurting

[grocer]

Joomla account activation must be off.
Joomla login module must be desabled.
VirtueMart login module must be enabled.
This configuration is basic according to manuals. No errors. A single user login and full functional.

with these settings an error message is received
"user registration is disabled, it must be enabled in order to proceed."

allowing "enable Joomla registration" I still cannot see a login module at joomla level to disable.

when i create a basket and go to check out i am prompted to register
and once the form is complete i receive the following message "Checkout
Info: You are not a Registered Customer yet. Please provide your Billing Information.
(* = Required)"
despite also receiving an email confirming registration completed.

In the back end of virtuemart (VirtueMart 1.1.0 stable [Hey Saturday Sun] ) I can see the new registered username however none of the "shopper information" has attached or been saved.

At the front end, the detail entries keeps looping.

Could you please explain what else I need to check? I have searched this forum up and down and cannot find an explanation that I have tried that works.

[korb]

Hi,
I will try to explain a detailed "how to" and explinations:

Joomla! Global Configuration - User settings tab

-Allow User Registration - Yes/NO    Here IF is YES, your users are able to register to your site, IF no the oposite. YOU MUST USE YES HERE.

-New User Account Activation - Yes/NO    If you want your users to activate their account by e-mail confirmation, you must use YES, but VirtueMart developers recomand NO, so YOU MUST CLICK NO.

-Front-end User Parameters - Hide/Show      IF you want users to be able to select language, editor, and so on in their account settings, you must use SHOW.
This setting is altering VirtueMart login/logout behaviour.


VirtueMart Configuration - Global tab - User Registration Settings:

Joomla!: User registration allowed? if you see YES green colour, this means VirtueMart checks that setting because needs it to be YES, because it is compatible with that setting, otherwise NO will be red colour, and is not compatible with VirtueMart User Management.

Joomla!: New account activation necessary? IF you see NO in a green colour, it means VirtueMart is compatible with that setting, otherwise your users will be forced to activate their e-mail adress before login. If your users didn't activated their account by e-mail, they will see this error:
E_NOLOGIN_BLOCKED
* Login denied! Your account has either been blocked or you have not activated it yet. Did you not get an activation e-mail and follow the validation link? Try for yourself to experience.
This SETTING MUST BE NO all cases.

User Registration Type:
Normal account creation is most used, because provides all information about your customers: billto info, shipto, and, in some cases credit card info. This is what I'm going to use for my sites. It is most used no matter what payment methood and shipping method you use.

No account creation:
This setting is best for your clients that pay only with credit card. They buy and are not registered in your database, although they must provide credit card information (those fields are required there) for payment processing.

Silent registration type is connected to the letterman or newsletter components that remember subscribed users in their database. This feature is still a work in progress.

Optional registration is as it says. Your users can provide their information or not. BUT for the transaction to be done, they must provide proper information: bill to info, ship to info (for material products), and credit card information if you use this type of payment. This registration type can be used for your friends

Info: You are not a Registered Customer yet. Please provide your Billing Information.
(* = Required)"
despite also receiving an email confirming registration completed.

When switching registration type, you must also modify the user fields behaviour for proper functionality, because they are not yet automatically changed. So in user fields management you must change required/not, visible in account maintenance or not, visible at checkout or not and so on.
In our case here it is possible you have a filed or more that is/are required but are not displayed because of shown/hidden setting of each field.

Now about that paypal, I saw that it is a problem in this topic, you must read paypal documentation.

I hope I was clear this time.
And hostricity, theese settings are used and are working! I know you don't speak chinese, sorry about that (it is friendly speaking).

Regards

[hostricity]

Thank you. I will try those settings and let you know how it works.

Geoff

P. S. I also apologize. GS 

[grocer]

Thank you Korb.
I had followed the initial set up to the letter thus my dismay when it all went pear-shaped.

The missing link (for me at least) was fiddling with the required fields on the customer.

I have no idea what I fiddled with but have re-installed virtuemart and it is working (for me at least).

DON"T FIDDLE WITH USER FIELDS!!!! lesson learnt.

[korb]

It is better to experience the function, so later you can use it for real. Test it.

[grocer]

It is better to experience the function, so later you can use it for real. Test it.

of course, but not fiddling without doing all the other...