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bobthebob01

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Custom attribute Hack
« on: April 24, 2008, 05:39:05 am »
Hello

i would like to know if it is possible to use the custom attribute function the same way as the Custom attribute Hack of VM 1.0 http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=28192.0

So for example, you can add a custom attribute of name or initial for embroidery or engraving which would add a price if any info is entered.

thanks

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  • text input field for users to write words or initial which would add a pre set price to the product final price. the field needs to be optional for users and input needs to reflect on the checkout page as well as the added price.
  • a custom attribute editor to create a class of predefined attribute, re-usable for any given product; multiple attributes could be selected per product

bobthebob01

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 06:02:58 am »
I actually find some what a work around.

if you just put a "name" custom attribute, then you can just a a product called "Embroidery" or "engraving" in your product list, and when receiving the order you can modify it and add that product. you just need to put a little note saying that the embroidery or engraving fee of xx$ will be added afterward.

But i still face a problem, when you have a custom attribute it becomes automatically mandatory, is there a way to make optional, so that if a client does not enter any info you can still add the product to cart?

thanks in advance for the help.

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 17:58:57 pm »
Bump .. Bumpitty freaking bump bump bump!!!!!!

Ok Virtumartians-- LEt me preface this REQ with thanking all of the talented and Great minds that have come together to make this open source (some of you need to be reminded of that sometimes).. Project. It truly is a testament to the power of the like minded geekdom ..

And now the REQ---

WE FREAKING NEED A DECENT WAY TO ADD CUSTOM ATTRIBUTES.. e.g "PRODUCT CONFIGURATOR"

This is the one aspect of this shopping cart soloution that should have been a no brainier from the very beginning, similar to the ( dare I mention them ) Magento.  ( blasphemy) ;-)
***** ATTENTION *******
PLEASE PLEASE , FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT I HOLY ..

SOMEONE .. SOME NICE, NON-GREEDY , TALENTED individual(s) .. Throw us the bone we have been needing for a while and develop, port.. some solution for this.
*****           *******

and dammit someone reply to this with anything other than " Yeah I need this too" .. or "there has been talk about what you asking about."   because that does no one any good.   

Once again, thank you .. You guys are the good guys in this society.. You enable the non-privileged the chance to make it in the e-BIZ.


~SublimeTime





bobthebob01

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 18:17:10 pm »
yes i do agree with 2 things

it's an open source project and i am very great full to all the people involved to provide such great product.

But at the same time, i also agree that it seems to be a very common feature that should be part of VM, so without knowing the in and out of coding PHP, i'd be surprised that it's complicated to do it.

The Custom attribute hack for VM 1.0.x was not made of hundreds and hundreds of line of codes.

So i am puzzled about this.

i'm ready to make a a donation to kick start it if needed.

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 18:28:48 pm »
ME too.. but I don't think money is the issue,, Ive seen it pooled together for this in the past .. but alas, nothing has been done..

I am willing to shell out $500 of my paypal (today!) for anyone who can provide a good solution for this! Thats a promise..

I will be happy to pay for it  and then distribute it here on the forums for the rest of you guys for free .. BUT THAT MEANS I STILL NEED SOMEONE TO DO IT.



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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 04:39:02 am »
woa, that's a nice and generous offer.

i would not be able to provide that much for now, but i can also make a contribution.

Let's hope some php skilled dude will hear us.

unleash.it

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 09:46:30 am »
Why don't you contact the person who made the original hack and offer him the mulah? Even though this is open source...most people don't particularly like other people demanding them do do a bunch of free work, no matter how "great" of an idea you may think it is. However, money does make the world go around... Believe it or not, you might be surprised at the effect it has even on open source developers...

Anyways, I agree that custom fields would make a great addition for Virtuemart.
I haven't tried the old mod, but if it works well w/the last version it's probably a lot easier to update than making a new one. So maybe you can contact the guy? At the moment I have a lot of bills so I can't offer much, but I could throw in $25 if you end up finding someone to do it.

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 15:30:08 pm »
Adding this would not be a problem. I would not give your money out for a hack though. Reason being: When updates to VM are applied, this could (and would) more then likely overwright the altered files, thus needing the code re-inserted with each update (if the source coding were to chage for some reason, the hack might not even work anymore needing someone to recode it). If VM would add the code addition to their source, this would not be an issue then.

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 18:03:05 pm »
Adding this would not be a problem. I would not give your money out for a hack though. Reason being: When updates to VM are applied, this could (and would) more then likely overwright the altered files, thus needing the code re-inserted with each update (if the source coding were to chage for some reason, the hack might not even work anymore needing someone to recode it). If VM would add the code addition to their source, this would not be an issue then.

The Hack, Although a good attempt, is not really a decent solution for a product builder. And If I could just get a decent product builder integrated in this "e-commerce solution" then I wouldn't update it as long as it did the job..

** Ok rather than talking philosophy on this like everyone has before , and nothing ever getting done .. ***I HAVE A PROPOSAL**

**** Rather than hope someone develops this, I am no longer going to rely on this to happen, even with the offer of decent money, there still has been no takers. ..

**** Lets bring in some new blood and perspective into this project , By getting a Developers from Elance.com***

Lets Pool Our donations together and place a bid on ELANCE.com for this project. I think that we have a better chance with going with somone who develops code everyday and has a new perspective on virtuhacking.


*** DO NOT OFFER TO DONATE UNLESS YOU ARE SERIOUS, BECAUSE I AM***

I will open up a section of one of my websites that will keep track of who is willing to donate what.   Please place what you can donate here, as well as fallow up with a personal message to me with the dollar amount and how I can get in touch with you when it comes to bid time.

This will at least get the BASIC functionality that we need in  order to use virtumart until we can ALL move to Joomla+ Magento.

If you have any more suggestions please feel free to post them. In the meantime, May I suggest that Virtumart not claim to be a ecommerce shopping solution until it has the essentials. 

**Note**
All those willing to donate on this project, You must be ok with me posting the finished product up here for free download to anyone else who may want it ... within a few weeks anyway. Those who donated, should get it first.

Thank You guys -- now lets actually get some problems solved, and stop with the philosophy.


"God and his Good people make the world go round' .. Not money"

unleash.it

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 23:13:31 pm »
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God and his Good people make the world go round' .. Not money

Sure, that's what we've told all of the hapless natives we've conquered. What's a little smallpox and mass starvation when you have us superior god fearing overlords to take care of you?

I agree with FBIX for the most part, although convincing them to add it might not be all that easy...

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This will at least get the BASIC functionality that we need in  order to use virtumart until we can ALL move to Joomla+ Magento

Magento is great, I doubt anyone doubts that. It's a brand new, modern project written from scratch. But does that instantly make VM obsolete? I hardly think so. Everyone has their version of what makes "Basic" functionality, but to me Magento lacks a real CMS and an easy to use, flexible theming system that Joomla/VM do have. All of the stores I've seen so far may be cool, but they look decidedly like "stores", somewhat cookie cutter. I doubt there will be any kind of usable integration between Magneto/Joomla anytime soon.

A user friendly way to make custom fields would be great (I wrote a "white paper" on this for Joomla), but if you really need them, you can learn how to manually add them yourself. I've seen VM sites that use them, even in tabbed interfaces and such. By the way, I can think of a dozen other things I wish VM had...but like anything else in life that's free, it's wise not to look a gift horse in the mouth. (don't you love my proverbs?)

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2008, 02:26:07 am »
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God and his Good people make the world go round' .. Not money
Sure, that's what we've told all of the hapless natives we've conquered. What's a little smallpox and mass starvation when you have us superior god fearing overlords to take care of you?
I agree with FBIX for the most part, although convincing them to add it might not be all that easy...

First off, I am Native American by Heritage , and I am assuming you are not.Dont speak for me or my Ancestors please. I have no idea what that had to do with anything and I am not going to bother reading the rest of your post based on the fact that the first few lines of it dismiss you off as an idiot.


FACT IS.. VM claims to be a e-commerce solution. Open source or not.. Free or paid.. It simply is not. No one would have the right to complain if it were advertised as beta, and not complete.. (which it should be)

unleash.it

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2008, 05:56:54 am »
This was simply an analogy and not meant to upset anyone...one which was actually SUPPORTIVE of the many groups of people that colonial mentality has suppressed.

The point was if you're going to come in expecting/demanding things to happen...either come up with some money and find someone willing, or figure out a way to do it yourself. People don't like other people demanding things from them. The analogy as you mentioned, you did not understand.

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2008, 10:02:14 am »
This was simply an analogy and not meant to upset anyone...one which was actually SUPPORTIVE of the many groups of people that colonial mentality has suppressed.
The point was if you're going to come in expecting/demanding things to happen...either come up with some money and find someone willing, or figure out a way to do it yourself. People don't like other people demanding things from them. The analogy as you mentioned, you did not understand.

Have you not read my posts?

I have offered 500 USD of my own money .. and proposed more... what else is there to do?  If you sell anything other than digital goods, You should know just as well as I , that without a product builder, this is going to remains a half a** ecomm solution.. It can either evolve and become a preferred solution.. Or it can die when magento gets 100% integrated.. Would it not be a additional incentive, for the developers who have worked hard on this , to do it right? and keep it alive? Look around in the forums, most of us cant wait to make the switch, simply because we need the basics thats are supposed to be included with any "e-comm solution"

bobthebob01

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Re: Custom attribute
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2008, 10:25:21 am »
OK guys, we are missing the point here.

let's leave god and all the rest out of this. They have no place here.

We all agree that being a free, open source project we can not be demanding: granted!

But we all agree that a lot of people need that functionality being a common one among shopping cart script.

So that kind of leaves us with 2 options: (a) we live with this lack of functionality or (b) like Sublimetime suggested we all put some money and find a PHP dude to come up with the solution.

I know joomlancers(dot)com also have a lot of joomla! related dev. that could probably do the job but i have no specific site i want to use. As long as the job gets done, i'll be happy

I don't mind make it available for free after proven to work, and hopefully integrated to VM at one point of the VM dev.

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i'd be interested to hear what you guys have to say on this. Maybe the next upgrade will cover this?

Are crazy? (and i am not talking about the god and the colonialist, racism ...we heard before!)

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cheers

PS: i'm still up for getting together to pay someone.

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Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2008, 10:29:46 am »
I've just PM barnett who is man behind the original hack to hear his opinion.

let's see