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antifragile

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Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« on: October 27, 2019, 19:59:23 PM »
Hi, I am looking for "tags" in the context of Joomla's native tag system: https://docs.joomla.org/J3.x:How_To_Use_Content_Tags_in_Joomla!

I do know that there are some extensions that add a filter/tag functionality to VM, but they do not seem to use the native Joomla system. Does VM leverage the Joomla tag system?

(I searched the forum, but the terms "tags" was used in different contexts.)

Many thanks!

Dan

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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2019, 23:03:49 PM »
Joomla content tags are not available in VirtueMart as far as I know. If I remember correctly the Joomla tag system can significantly slow down the website performance if you have a lot of tags. When the Joomla tag system was introduced, it created a lot of additional sql queries. I don't know if they ever solved that issue.
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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2019, 23:51:31 PM »
I have a generic plugin that can use Tags. See https://shop.st42.fr/en/products/shortcodes.htm
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The tags use only Indexes in a table to not slowdown your shop.

You have custom filter that should be fast too.

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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2019, 20:10:08 PM »
any customfield S is a tag, in special when you set it "searchable" then it is used in the search as tag.

It could be intersting to add the joomla tag system.
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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2019, 08:48:51 AM »
Joomla content tags are not available in VirtueMart as far as I know. If I remember correctly the Joomla tag system can significantly slow down the website performance if you have a lot of tags. When the Joomla tag system was introduced, it created a lot of additional sql queries. I don't know if they ever solved that issue.

Thanks! I have just started using tags and have not noticed a speed impact. Will continue to monitor and research this.

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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2019, 08:54:13 AM »
I have a generic plugin that can use Tags. See https://shop.st42.fr/en/products/shortcodes.htm

You have custom filter that should be fast too.

Hi, thanks! Yes, I have seen this in the forum. Looks interesting! I did not further pursue because 1) it is more like a Swiss army knife, while I only need the one single knife, and 2) it does not enable tagging across the entire site (e.g. shop AND articles). But it does look like a solution. Do you have any view into the backend please?

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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2019, 09:00:37 AM »
any customfield S is a tag, in special when you set it "searchable" then it is used in the search as tag.

It could be intersting to add the joomla tag system.

Hi Milbo, thanks! Here is my rationale / use case:

We sell how-to's. I would like to tag according to capability level of the user (beginner, intermediate, advanced). I also write articles, some of which may be geared towards e.g. beginners. Then I have a calendar with events. An integrated tagging system could bring article, list of items in the shop, and a workshop offering, all geared to beginners, into one single view, with a single click onto a tag in anyone of those sources.

What do you think?

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2019, 12:13:48 PM »
Seems like you are looking for a filtering system.

You can use the custom fields along with a filtering system like Custom Filters.
https://breakdesigns.net/extensions/custom-filters

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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2019, 11:23:57 AM »
Seems like you are looking for a filtering system.

You can use the custom fields along with a filtering system like Custom Filters.
https://breakdesigns.net/extensions/custom-filters

Hi balai, no, it is literally tags that work across the entire site, not only within VM. Not a search system, but buttons e.g. at the bottom of an article. Is more ergonomic for the user, because WYSIWYG and not another step (open a search form, think of a term, etc.). (My users are your mom and grandma, huge size tags ;D)

But thanks for the link, it indeed is another option.

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Dan

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Re: Joomla tag system - not available for VM?
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2023, 09:44:20 AM »
It could be intersting to add the joomla tag system.

Hey @Milbo
Do you plan to implement Joomla tag system to VM?