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Started by marvays, December 12, 2018, 04:32:27 AM

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GJC Web Design

I can't see how you can manage to turn a simple about us page
http://32295.w95.wedos.ws/domains/live.lukysipy.cz/index.php?option=com_quix&view=page&id=2&Itemid=653
which should be a small bit of html/css/js and some navigation into a 108 requests / 4.70 MB monster?

If your plain jane html pages are that size/complex how will VM ever run fast?
clean, mean and fast is what you should be aiming for .. eye candy is all well and good but if it creates a miserable browsing experience then what is the point?

why do u need a component option=com_quix to show some text and an image???
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jjk

I suggest to remove sh404sef. It creates a huge amount of of cache files which slow down a shop (did you check the sh404sef cache folder?). Joomla's and VM's own SEF features are doing a good job.
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marvays

When I use Quix for a more complex page, I will use it everywhere. Do you think Quix slows down a lot? I want the web to be fast but also nice to look at.

GJC Web Design

everything slows everything..  everything uses resources...

I don't see the connection between endless 3rd party extensions and -> "nice to look at"
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marvays

good. I will take your advice to your heart. I will try to improve it and build the site again.

What components for eshop are the minimum necessary to use? Virtuemart and? At least I need some template builder. I do not want to buy the finished template. I definitely need productXport for xml feed. what's wrong yet?

jjk

Additional comment: Just noticed that your template framework still relies on loading mootools. Of course loading an additional javascript library takes unnecessary time, too.
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marvays

Quote from: jjk on December 12, 2018, 12:17:09 PM
Additional comment: Just noticed that your template framework still relies on loading mootools. Of course loading an additional javascript library takes unnecessary time, too.
what does it mean?

GJC Web Design

I build all my sites from a simple white label bootstrap blank I have developed over the years

there's plenty available for free - start with the simplest and only add extensions that you need
I don't use any third party ext apart from VM and needed plugins
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marvays

Quote from: GJC Web Design on December 12, 2018, 13:29:44 PM
I build all my sites from a simple white label bootstrap blank I have developed over the years

there's plenty available for free - start with the simplest and only add extensions that you need
I don't use any third party ext apart from VM and needed plugins

I cant primary free . . . i have money :) But need good product.
Tell me any good and quick tempalte framework or builder, please.

and about 3D, i need use
Virtuemart
jSitemap
productXport
Custom Filters PRO
OPC
Akeeba
Google Structured Data

Its all right?

Studio 42

@marvays,
fast sites  and framework is not compatible.
Most frameworks have so many possibility that they loose time on each page loading.
Use native bootstrap theme generator is the best solution, because Joomla already use bootstrap by default.
You can find basic Joomla templates and adapt it for your needs.
Most nice template and framework, use stupid overrides and some time reapply same CSS rules, add !important in rules ...
I have for eg. a customer using bootstrap+ui-kit CSS+ ui-kit Virtuemart Css + custom Css so all work together, this is how to slowdown the page load.

GJC Web Design

QuoteI have for eg. a customer using bootstrap+ui-kit CSS+ ui-kit Virtuemart Css + custom Css so all work together, this is how to slowdown the page load.

can only agree... then a ton of silly JS is loaded to create one silly visual effect ( most effects can be handled natively by css transitions etc )

I see this all the time and they are never happy with their website speeds

Why on earth do u need a template and content builder with some opaque framework? Its all junk and intended for users with zero skill.

An attractive site is of course important but 90% of e-commerce users will choose price, usability, ease of ordering, service, ease of use over some silly visual effects
GJC Web Design
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marvays

Good. Instead of Quix, should I use joomla articles and try to do it nicely?
But I do not want to remodel the template but build it. They do not mind buying a commercial template and then reworking them. which framework is the smallest evil?

GJC Web Design

GJC Web Design
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jenkinhill

I must agree with GJ, I use Spyros'templates for VM sites and they are fast and easy to further customise if required. I did look at https://astroidframework.com/ and installed a test version - I am not impressed with code used or speed. And why mootools, which is loaded as well as jQuery? Nope, sent to the bit bucket in the sky.
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marvays

Dear friends. Thank you very much for valuable advice. From Today to building eshop I will take the page load speed as a priority.

This morning I installed this template and edited it to make the most of a live eshop.

You can check out here: http://lukynove.richta.eu