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Title: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 24, 2008, 05:39:05 am
Hello

i would like to know if it is possible to use the custom attribute function the same way as the Custom attribute Hack of VM 1.0 http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=28192.0 (http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=28192.0)

So for example, you can add a custom attribute of name or initial for embroidery or engraving which would add a price if any info is entered.

thanks

cheers

julien

*************** Custom Attribute Hack wish list ***************

Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 24, 2008, 06:02:58 am
I actually find some what a work around.

if you just put a "name" custom attribute, then you can just a a product called "Embroidery" or "engraving" in your product list, and when receiving the order you can modify it and add that product. you just need to put a little note saying that the embroidery or engraving fee of xx$ will be added afterward.

But i still face a problem, when you have a custom attribute it becomes automatically mandatory, is there a way to make optional, so that if a client does not enter any info you can still add the product to cart?

thanks in advance for the help.

cheers
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: Sublimetime on April 24, 2008, 17:58:57 pm
Bump .. Bumpitty freaking bump bump bump!!!!!!

Ok Virtumartians-- LEt me preface this REQ with thanking all of the talented and Great minds that have come together to make this open source (some of you need to be reminded of that sometimes).. Project. It truly is a testament to the power of the like minded geekdom ..

And now the REQ---

WE FREAKING NEED A DECENT WAY TO ADD CUSTOM ATTRIBUTES.. e.g "PRODUCT CONFIGURATOR"

This is the one aspect of this shopping cart soloution that should have been a no brainier from the very beginning, similar to the ( dare I mention them ) Magento.  ( blasphemy) ;-)
***** ATTENTION *******
PLEASE PLEASE , FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT I HOLY ..

SOMEONE .. SOME NICE, NON-GREEDY , TALENTED individual(s) .. Throw us the bone we have been needing for a while and develop, port.. some solution for this.
*****           *******

and dammit someone reply to this with anything other than " Yeah I need this too" .. or "there has been talk about what you asking about."   because that does no one any good.   

Once again, thank you .. You guys are the good guys in this society.. You enable the non-privileged the chance to make it in the e-BIZ.


~SublimeTime




Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 24, 2008, 18:17:10 pm
yes i do agree with 2 things

it's an open source project and i am very great full to all the people involved to provide such great product.

But at the same time, i also agree that it seems to be a very common feature that should be part of VM, so without knowing the in and out of coding PHP, i'd be surprised that it's complicated to do it.

The Custom attribute hack for VM 1.0.x was not made of hundreds and hundreds of line of codes.

So i am puzzled about this.

i'm ready to make a a donation to kick start it if needed.

cheers
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: Sublimetime on April 24, 2008, 18:28:48 pm
ME too.. but I don't think money is the issue,, Ive seen it pooled together for this in the past .. but alas, nothing has been done..

I am willing to shell out $500 of my paypal (today!) for anyone who can provide a good solution for this! Thats a promise..

I will be happy to pay for it  and then distribute it here on the forums for the rest of you guys for free .. BUT THAT MEANS I STILL NEED SOMEONE TO DO IT.


Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 25, 2008, 04:39:02 am
woa, that's a nice and generous offer.

i would not be able to provide that much for now, but i can also make a contribution.

Let's hope some php skilled dude will hear us.
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: unleash.it on April 25, 2008, 09:46:30 am
Why don't you contact the person who made the original hack and offer him the mulah? Even though this is open source...most people don't particularly like other people demanding them do do a bunch of free work, no matter how "great" of an idea you may think it is. However, money does make the world go around... Believe it or not, you might be surprised at the effect it has even on open source developers...

Anyways, I agree that custom fields would make a great addition for Virtuemart.
I haven't tried the old mod, but if it works well w/the last version it's probably a lot easier to update than making a new one. So maybe you can contact the guy? At the moment I have a lot of bills so I can't offer much, but I could throw in $25 if you end up finding someone to do it.
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: FBIX on April 25, 2008, 15:30:08 pm
Adding this would not be a problem. I would not give your money out for a hack though. Reason being: When updates to VM are applied, this could (and would) more then likely overwright the altered files, thus needing the code re-inserted with each update (if the source coding were to chage for some reason, the hack might not even work anymore needing someone to recode it). If VM would add the code addition to their source, this would not be an issue then.
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: Sublimetime on April 25, 2008, 18:03:05 pm
Quote from: FBIX on April 25, 2008, 15:30:08 pm
Adding this would not be a problem. I would not give your money out for a hack though. Reason being: When updates to VM are applied, this could (and would) more then likely overwright the altered files, thus needing the code re-inserted with each update (if the source coding were to chage for some reason, the hack might not even work anymore needing someone to recode it). If VM would add the code addition to their source, this would not be an issue then.

The Hack, Although a good attempt, is not really a decent solution for a product builder. And If I could just get a decent product builder integrated in this "e-commerce solution" then I wouldn't update it as long as it did the job..

** Ok rather than talking philosophy on this like everyone has before , and nothing ever getting done .. ***I HAVE A PROPOSAL**

**** Rather than hope someone develops this, I am no longer going to rely on this to happen, even with the offer of decent money, there still has been no takers. ..

**** Lets bring in some new blood and perspective into this project , By getting a Developers from Elance.com***

Lets Pool Our donations together and place a bid on ELANCE.com for this project. I think that we have a better chance with going with somone who develops code everyday and has a new perspective on virtuhacking.


*** DO NOT OFFER TO DONATE UNLESS YOU ARE SERIOUS, BECAUSE I AM***

I will open up a section of one of my websites that will keep track of who is willing to donate what.   Please place what you can donate here, as well as fallow up with a personal message to me with the dollar amount and how I can get in touch with you when it comes to bid time.

This will at least get the BASIC functionality that we need in  order to use virtumart until we can ALL move to Joomla+ Magento.

If you have any more suggestions please feel free to post them. In the meantime, May I suggest that Virtumart not claim to be a ecommerce shopping solution until it has the essentials. 

**Note**
All those willing to donate on this project, You must be ok with me posting the finished product up here for free download to anyone else who may want it ... within a few weeks anyway. Those who donated, should get it first.

Thank You guys -- now lets actually get some problems solved, and stop with the philosophy.


"God and his Good people make the world go round' .. Not money"
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: unleash.it on April 25, 2008, 23:13:31 pm
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God and his Good people make the world go round' .. Not money

Sure, that's what we've told all of the hapless natives we've conquered. What's a little smallpox and mass starvation when you have us superior god fearing overlords to take care of you?

I agree with FBIX for the most part, although convincing them to add it might not be all that easy...

Quote
This will at least get the BASIC functionality that we need in  order to use virtumart until we can ALL move to Joomla+ Magento

Magento is great, I doubt anyone doubts that. It's a brand new, modern project written from scratch. But does that instantly make VM obsolete? I hardly think so. Everyone has their version of what makes "Basic" functionality, but to me Magento lacks a real CMS and an easy to use, flexible theming system that Joomla/VM do have. All of the stores I've seen so far may be cool, but they look decidedly like "stores", somewhat cookie cutter. I doubt there will be any kind of usable integration between Magneto/Joomla anytime soon.

A user friendly way to make custom fields would be great (I wrote a "white paper" on this for Joomla), but if you really need them, you can learn how to manually add them yourself. I've seen VM sites that use them, even in tabbed interfaces and such. By the way, I can think of a dozen other things I wish VM had...but like anything else in life that's free, it's wise not to look a gift horse in the mouth. (don't you love my proverbs?)
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: Sublimetime on April 26, 2008, 02:26:07 am
Quote from: unleash.it on April 25, 2008, 23:13:31 pm
Quote
God and his Good people make the world go round' .. Not money
Sure, that's what we've told all of the hapless natives we've conquered. What's a little smallpox and mass starvation when you have us superior god fearing overlords to take care of you?
I agree with FBIX for the most part, although convincing them to add it might not be all that easy...

First off, I am Native American by Heritage , and I am assuming you are not.Dont speak for me or my Ancestors please. I have no idea what that had to do with anything and I am not going to bother reading the rest of your post based on the fact that the first few lines of it dismiss you off as an idiot.


FACT IS.. VM claims to be a e-commerce solution. Open source or not.. Free or paid.. It simply is not. No one would have the right to complain if it were advertised as beta, and not complete.. (which it should be)
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: unleash.it on April 26, 2008, 05:56:54 am
This was simply an analogy and not meant to upset anyone...one which was actually SUPPORTIVE of the many groups of people that colonial mentality has suppressed.

The point was if you're going to come in expecting/demanding things to happen...either come up with some money and find someone willing, or figure out a way to do it yourself. People don't like other people demanding things from them. The analogy as you mentioned, you did not understand.
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: Sublimetime on April 26, 2008, 10:02:14 am
Quote from: unleash.it on April 26, 2008, 05:56:54 am
This was simply an analogy and not meant to upset anyone...one which was actually SUPPORTIVE of the many groups of people that colonial mentality has suppressed.
The point was if you're going to come in expecting/demanding things to happen...either come up with some money and find someone willing, or figure out a way to do it yourself. People don't like other people demanding things from them. The analogy as you mentioned, you did not understand.

Have you not read my posts?

I have offered 500 USD of my own money .. and proposed more... what else is there to do?  If you sell anything other than digital goods, You should know just as well as I , that without a product builder, this is going to remains a half a** ecomm solution.. It can either evolve and become a preferred solution.. Or it can die when magento gets 100% integrated.. Would it not be a additional incentive, for the developers who have worked hard on this , to do it right? and keep it alive? Look around in the forums, most of us cant wait to make the switch, simply because we need the basics thats are supposed to be included with any "e-comm solution"
Title: Re: Custom attribute
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 26, 2008, 10:25:21 am
OK guys, we are missing the point here.

let's leave god and all the rest out of this. They have no place here.

We all agree that being a free, open source project we can not be demanding: granted!

But we all agree that a lot of people need that functionality being a common one among shopping cart script.

So that kind of leaves us with 2 options: (a) we live with this lack of functionality or (b) like Sublimetime suggested we all put some money and find a PHP dude to come up with the solution.

I know joomlancers(dot)com also have a lot of joomla! related dev. that could probably do the job but i have no specific site i want to use. As long as the job gets done, i'll be happy

I don't mind make it available for free after proven to work, and hopefully integrated to VM at one point of the VM dev.

**************** to the moderator or VM dev. members ***************

i'd be interested to hear what you guys have to say on this. Maybe the next upgrade will cover this?

Are crazy? (and i am not talking about the god and the colonialist, racism ...we heard before!)

***********************************************************************
cheers

PS: i'm still up for getting together to pay someone.
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 26, 2008, 10:29:46 am
I've just PM barnett who is man behind the original hack to hear his opinion.

let's see
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Marco on April 26, 2008, 10:30:18 am
Hi

A lot need this hack for VM 1.1, so do I.
I allready contacted a coder a few weeks ago to have a look at it.
At that time he responded that converting this hack to VM 1.1 could be done and the price was not so high.(round 120$)
I allready dropped him a mail today, asking if he could start on converting the old hack to VM 1.1.
I don't mind sharing it with the community when it is finnished.
Maybe it is an option to convert the old hack first, so all people that need it can start working with VM 1.1.
When there is a working solution we can look for a better solution, with VM future updates in mind.
As soons as I get an answer, I'll post it here.
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 26, 2008, 10:40:27 am
Hi Marco,

that is a good news in a way. i agree with you to have a hack to start with.

now since so many people are willing to pay for it, i don't see why you should bear the cost on your own. if it does cover my needs as stated in my first thread, i'm willing to send you my contribution.

Does your version of the hack is the exact same one as the one for VM 1.0.x?

what are the other think about this?

Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Sublimetime on April 26, 2008, 10:54:09 am
I am willing to split the costs with you. email me keykoder@gmail.com

** Thank you Macro for having a less talk, more action approach on this. I could only hope the rest of us reflect the same attitude. **
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Marco on April 26, 2008, 10:57:03 am
The only thing I asked for to be added, is adding a prefix to the uploaded file name.
Like a date or something.
The rest of it should be the same idea.
Adding more features will slow down the convertion to VM 1.1 I think.

I don't mind to bear this first convertion on my own.
I found many solutions on this forum, this is my chance to give something back.

Maybe you can set something up for a better soltution for this hack and collect donations for that.

I don't know when to expect an answer, he is asleep right now and maybe he has other plans this weekend. So it is possible we will know his answer not any sooner as monday. Could be he has no time right now to do the convertion. But let's think positive  :)
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Sublimetime on April 26, 2008, 10:59:20 am
Quote from: Marco on April 26, 2008, 10:57:03 am
The only thing I asked for to be added, is adding a prefix to the uploaded file name.
Like a date or something.
The rest of it should be the same idea.
Adding more features will slow down the convertion to VM 1.1 I think.
I don't mind to bear this first convertion on my own.
I found many solutions on this forum, this is my chance to give something back.
Maybe you can set something up for a better soltution for this hack and collect donations for that.
I don't know when to expect an answer, he is asleep right now and maybe he has other plans this weekend. So it is possible we will now his answer not any sooner as monday. Could be he has no time right now to do the convertion. But let's think positive  :)



** Marco just restored my faith in geek humanity*** I Will donate whatever result comes out of my elance rented coder as well.

Thanks man..
May the source be with you
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Sublimetime on April 26, 2008, 11:03:25 am
I am writing up the project needs right now for elance, I was hoping maybe I could get some input from you guys as far as what specifics would be important. We don't need just a port of the old hack do we? I know for me ( selling toughbooks) I can really use a more in depth customizer.
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 26, 2008, 11:19:56 am
We can start gathering the needs and since i started the thread i will add a section on the first post listing the need.

you just need to PM or post the exact definition of what you are trying to achieve.

i'll start with mine.

And here we go! at least we are getting somewhere  ;D
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Marco on April 26, 2008, 11:29:36 am
I've been thinking about this also.
What I would like to be able to make sets of standard attributes that could simply be added to a product.
A lot of products could work with the same attributes, for example selection attributes.
Instead of typing the attribute code (like with this hack) every time, you just pick a ready made attribute from a list or something.
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 26, 2008, 11:32:48 am
Do you mean like a class of attribute?

so you can predefine them at the beginning and have a drop down menu showing up for each product to chose from.

do i understand properly?
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Marco on April 26, 2008, 11:40:10 am
Yes, having something like an attribute designer/customzier/editor, were you could make your own (standard) attributes once and save them.
I could live with the same features (selection - text(area) - file - etc.) that are in the original hack.

With the product you can then select wich attributes you want to use.
Dropdown is not a good choice I believe, you must be able to select multiple attributes with a product.
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 26, 2008, 11:52:06 am
just amended the list, how does this sound. was i clear enough?
though i think that this start being more than just a simple hack, but definitely worth mentioning it for a long run mod or added feature in VM.

Maybe this thread will inspire the core team? who knows?
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: unleash.it on April 27, 2008, 02:44:20 am
Sublimetime, you're a jughead with a loud mouth who has no sense of appreciation. Grow up. You'll no longer receive a response from me.

The others: It was never my intent to not be productive. Perhaps I could have done a better job wording my post, but it was my honest intent to donate a bit of money to the cause. I tried to point out that aside from having a bit of cash ($500 by the way is a drop in the bucket for a professional dev), we'd need to find someone willing to do it. The best way to do that is hardly to insult all the VM devs who just worked so hard to get out the recent release... Trust me they've read this, and there's a reason none have answered.

As sublime says, I probably am an idiot ;). I never had a close look at the mod until now, and it's not exactly what I thought it was. My first impression was that it added database fields for front end specs, that would be new fields for entry in the admin backend. I think a "product builder" would be a great thing too...but at least in my work, it's something that I've been able to find workarounds for. I think it's a good one for the wish list, good luck in your crusade :)
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 27, 2008, 06:43:13 am
guys, stop this. it goes no where.

We are on the same boat, so let's paddle together in the same direction.

Yes the VM dev. have made an amazing work. Personally, i'm waiting to finish my VM site and get paid to make a donation to VM; as i think they deserve it BIG TIME.

I'm pretty sure that if everybody was giving at least just 10$ per site site they make with VM, it could help the dev a lot. And what is 10$; even if you undercharge a lot your site you make at least 500$ which is already ridiculous and no one should charge so little for a site (but that's another debate); that mean everybody should be able to give at least 10$.

that being said, before i can get paid, i need to work this custom attribute issue.

so so far we are only 2 people with a wish list item, and ready to make a donation?

come on guys!

another note, i could work around it for now but i still haven't figure out how to make it optional. I tried a few thing but it was not working. I just want to make that if people don't enter anything in the text field, you can still add the product to the cart; which is not the case right now.

let's see if marco gets a reply from his guy.

Sublimetime: i have posted my needs on the front page. Have you been able to post  the job on elance yet?
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Marco on April 27, 2008, 07:59:14 am
I've got a response.
This is what he wrote:

Quote
I'm sorry to report that there is some changes in VM1.1 that complicates the conversion of the hack to VM1.1. In the beta version, the custom attributes is not part of the template system. However, in the release, custom attributes html is done through template.
 
What this means for the upgrade,
1. We can try using the non-template version of custom attributes. The upgrade is much simpler and probably the cost will not be far from the $120 I have quoted.
2. Complete conversion to the template version. This would mean a major rewrite of the code. This not only involves re-design, re-coding but also extensive time in doing debug and tests. I need some time to make up an estimate for this. Probably the cost will be around $1000.
 
The drawback of 1 is the hack will not be compatible in style with the rest of vm. Instead of using a template, the html will be hard-coded in php. Otherwise, it should work. If you are still interested, please provide me a vm 1.1 for doing development and testing. This hack should be ready for testing within 1 week.

I'll set up a test site for him to work on, later today.
Option 1 is good for me to start with.
I pointed him to this topic, maybe he is willing to take on this bigger project also.
We'll have to wait for his answer on that.
It would save time to find someone on elance and we know we have someone who knows the way in VM and joomla.
He has done some jobs for me in the past and is active on this forum.

Any news I have, I'll post here.

Marco
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Sublimetime on April 27, 2008, 11:48:19 am
Excellent MARCO, Thank you.

So, if I understand correctly. It would be better for me to not post the project on elance for right now? Also, I am happy to assist in any way I can for the developer your talking to .. Eg. Money, a test site, ect. Just let me know what I can do.

I was waiting for the end of the weekend before I posted to eLance anyway, So you guys let me know what you think.

unleash.it -- even your (relevant) input is encouraged here, lets not let our difference in viewpoint and opinion hinder our progress here, agreed? All in all , I wish you and the rest of this community all the success you deserve.

signed - Jughead   ;)
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Sublimetime on April 27, 2008, 11:58:29 am
Quick Question guys.. Would the previously beta hack ( PC configurator) also termed (product configurator) Be a better basepoint to start from with our goals , rather than the custom attributes hack?  I am a frontend designer and new to backend stuff so I am admittedly clueless on that.

Product Builder http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=31958

PC Configurator http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=15492.0
Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: Marco on April 27, 2008, 13:21:47 pm
It is not realy something I'm looking for.
If my thoughts are right what this PC config. is doing.
You can add other products to a main product. Am I right?
For me this is way to much.
The features that are now in the attributes hack is enough, maybe only adding a color picker.

But it is no problem if it is added to the project.

Let's wait for his answer, if he wants to do this project.
You can allways place it on elance.


Title: Re: Custom attribute **** VM dev and hack guru: Please read *****
Post by: bobthebob01 on April 27, 2008, 17:13:33 pm
Hi guys,

glad to hear we moving forward and bad start is put behind.

I'm also willing to provide a VM install on my server and give an admin access to him if needed. No problem on my side.

I'm also available to help in any way. If he accept the project and hope he will, it would actually be pretty smart to have a test site so we can all try our need on different product and report any bug or make any comment.

i'm not sure about you guys, but i am in Asia, so i might be off line when you guys are on line and vice versa. So don't think i disappear if you don't hear anything from me quickly but i am monitoring this thread very closely.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on April 27, 2008, 19:19:52 pm
Quote from: Sublimetime on April 27, 2008, 11:58:29 am
Quick Question guys.. Would the previously beta hack ( PC configurator) also termed (product configurator) Be a better basepoint to start from with our goals , rather than the custom attributes hack?  I am a frontend designer and new to backend stuff so I am admittedly clueless on that.
Product Builder http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=31958
PC Configurator http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=15492.0

I just looked at the attributes in VM 1.1 but you can add other products to a main product.
Just put products id's in the "Extra IDs" field.
Or is this not what you are looking for?
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Sublimetime on April 28, 2008, 04:03:28 am
I just tried to add a product ID like you suggested before , and I get this error

Code: [Select]
Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in C:\Program Files\wamp\www\components\com_virtuemart\themes\default\templates\product_details\includes\addtocart_list_single.tpl.php on line 38
I am not sure if this function is working correctly, or if its a error on my part.. However I am using a new fresh install on a local server.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on April 28, 2008, 08:32:14 am
It works for me, but I noticed the output is not so nice, because of attributes hack codes that are still there in some products.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: jimspice on April 28, 2008, 17:51:29 pm
I've been interested in this, and have been making half-hearted stabs at it, for some time (8 Months, 3 Weeks ago (http://design.markcallf.co.uk/forum/2-Child-List-Quantity-Mod/401-ChildList-CustomAttributesHack.html#401) at markcallf.co.uk).

My greatest, sincerest, heart-felt and humble wish is that when it is implemented, it not be labeled an "attribute".  Currently, to add "items" (i.e. child products), you create an "attribute". To specify a selectable property, you create an "attribute". And to provide a text field for user-supplied extra info, you create an "attribute".

In my mind these are all very different things, and can be confusing, particularly when trying to walk a client through the process.

Go ahead and call it "Doug" or "Stephanie" but please, oh please, don't call it an attribute!

Go VM!

Spice

Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Christian Brooker on April 29, 2008, 05:41:22 am
yes... i could use a custom attributes hack like the old one.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack IN VM1.1 (Solved)! Almost...
Post by: Sublimetime on May 01, 2008, 01:52:33 am
Frett not guys,(and gals) I think I have got a solution coming along for us. I just outsourced the custom product builder project to a developer in India. We have used him before in our business and hes very brilliant.
 ;D ;D ;D
He said it will be like 2 weeks, but he will have exactly what I want built..

That being said.. What I want, is also what is going to work best for you..

So I need two things..

1. someone volunteer to maintain a "request log" of what the desired extra features would be. So that I know what is priority for him to focus on.


2. If any of you guys have a specific need, and want it incorporated in the solution, (or if your feeling generous) than please let me know if you can help cover the costs for this guy. I will be happy to give you his personal information and all so there is no possibility of mistrust.


Right now , he is developing the attributes with a computer reseller in mind, ( as I am) however I don't want his work to limit your ability to use this compnent to fit your specific product either.. So dammit , speak up now while we have a chance to solve a problem we all have, or dont bitch about VM again .. ( I am def guilty on that one ;-) )


Much love to the community of brilliant minds that I have met here.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: bobthebob01 on May 01, 2008, 05:13:18 am
well, that is a great news Sublimetime.

regarding the log, i would have been more than happy to do it through the first post here; but for the sake of the dev of this hack i have to say it is not possible as i will be off line on and off and some times for up to 10 days for from may 5th till may 21st.
So i am afraid to delay response too much.

I suggest starting a new thread by some one active and who is monitoring closely this dev.

As for the feature that i need; it's quite simple. My site is selling linen so i need a field input text for client to enter their initials for embroidery. So:



So if someone wants to have his/her initial on the linen, they could enter their initial in that field and a fee will be added to the final product price in the cart and the check-out page, as well as showing on the description detail column of the product on the check out page.

As for the donation, as said before, i'll be able to give something.

cheers
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on May 01, 2008, 09:59:15 am
Converting the 2.1 hack to VM 1.1 is still going on.
We ran into the upload file and the cart update problems that exists in this hack.
I just realized that I stayed with the older version of the hack (2.0?) for my VM 1.0.x sites. So everything was working for me in those sites.
I stopped following the attributes 2.1 topic when it was clear the developer did not had the time to support the hack anymore, so I wasn't aware of the cart update problem. (loosing attribute price)

The developer I'm working with is going to look at the problems to get them fixed.
Hoping we have a working solution in a couple of days.
I'll keep you updated.

@Sublimetime
I could live with the features that are in the 2.1 hack (price-text-textarea-select-checkbox-file-etc).
Like to be added:
- Prefix (date or random number) that will be added to the uploaded file name.
- Color picker of some kind, nice one is found here http://acidmartin.wemakesites.net/?pageId=ColorPickerXml
You can make your own color(picker) sets through xml files.
- Some kind of editor were you can make/set standard special attributes. Ones you can/will use with different products. So you don't have to type the syntax for every product every time. You just select them in a list of some kind.

I hope that more people who are viewing(1200+) this topic also, are willing to donate. Lots of viewers but very little input.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on May 03, 2008, 10:33:28 am
The conversion of the attribute 2.1 hack is ready.
I'm going to play with/test it more today to see if there are any bugs in it.
So I expect to place it on the forum some time tomorrow.

The update cart problem is solved.
The upload file is working.
Uploading did get some extra's:
1. date prefix is added to the saved filename. Uploaded filename is showed in the cart, without the prefix.
2. default values for file uploading can be set in VM config(extra tab added), defaults values can be overrulled through the attribute definition you place with a product. Upload directory can be set outside the website root(security reasons), you set default directory location in the VM config.

Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: bobthebob01 on May 03, 2008, 10:47:10 am
woa, that was fast.

this guy is a genius. i think i would ask you his detail, i might have some work for him. not joomla or VM related but he obviously masters php which could be very useful for other project i have.

i can't wait to see it in action.

cheers marco
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on May 03, 2008, 11:16:32 am
Yes, it is great guy to work with.
Good communication and allways prepared to add his own thoughts in a project.
To make it better, or add some extra's.
Reasonable prices also.
I asked if I could mention his name, and that was ok.
He is active on this forum, his name is Joseph Kwan.
Do a search and you will find him here on the forum.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: bobthebob01 on May 03, 2008, 11:24:07 am
cool thanks Marco i will get in touch with him when i'll get back from vacation. Which makes me think that i will be off line so i'll  won't answer but will try the hack and make my donation as pledged before
cheers
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on May 03, 2008, 14:33:36 pm
I did some testing.
Only found a problem when using add to cart in ajax mode.
File upload gives errors.
Have to wait JK's respons on that.
Further it looks ok to me.

The conversion to VM 1.1 of the hack is paid for.
Because of the existing problems in the orignal hack the costs went up a little bit more.
But JK did not charge all the extra time he had to spend because of those problems.
So anyone who likes the conversion and wants to donate, I suggest donate to Joseph.
He has a donate link in his signature.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Sublimetime on May 03, 2008, 14:36:20 pm
wow, you guys move fast. lol.. I must say I am very encouraged from our "micro community" within this thread.

I copy/pasted your specs from here and sent them to the DEV my company works with. He is never coded for VM before so he anticipates this taking him at least the rest of this week before he can have something. He said that what we are asking for is not extremely difficult or anything. He also said that HE will fix the price refresh hurdle in the core hack ...

Also.. I cant make any promises, and I am not sure if this is also something that you guys care about, but I am trying to get my boss to flip the bill to pay Roland ( the Dev behind CSV improved) to make it optional to insert these custom database fields withing the excel upload sheets. So you can have user defined variables declared in each cell column .. Eg.. $product author, $hard drive size, ect..  My hopes are to have those two mods closely integrated to give us some unparalleled flexibility than before.

That being said.. I will keep you updated, I am real busy at work and its hard to stay in communications with a dev in India, because of time zones.. (im USA)

I invited him to join in this forum discussion when he has the time, so you guys can talk directly to him.. His name is knapur btw.


In the mean time, I just want to say thank you to Marco, and Bob . Your positive attitudes, and productive thinking turned my disenchantment of VM into  an appreciation for the thing that really makes this a great project.. (the people)

P.S I will be checking back during the day for your new attributed hack upload. I would be happy to beta test it with ya..
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on May 03, 2008, 14:50:33 pm
"the price refresh hurdle" as you call it, is allready removed in this VM 1.1 version.

Could be a couple off hours before I have any respons from JK.
When a solution is found for the file upload with  the cart in ajax mode I will release it here.
File upload works when ajax is turned off.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Sublimetime on May 03, 2008, 14:57:47 pm
bueno..

I probably misunderstood it than. lol, Thats probably why he told me it wasn't going to be an issue. Let me know if I can do anything on your side. I PMd JK and im sending him some paypal love when I get the chance.   
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on May 03, 2008, 20:38:11 pm
Hi

I opened a new topic here http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=39666.0
You can download the beta package there.
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: bobthebob01 on May 04, 2008, 06:03:49 am
Great job marco,

let's have a look
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on May 08, 2008, 09:08:39 am
Hi guys (bobthebob01 + Sublimetime)

Joseph worked out a nice attribute system.
I could send you some details by pm if you are interrested.
Don't know at what stage you are with your developer Sublimetime, but JK's idea may also be nice solution. And he knows his way in VM joomla.

It has my favour at this moment. ;D
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: bobthebob01 on May 08, 2008, 12:50:21 pm
Hi guys,

unfortunately, as i said before, i'll be off line for at least 7 days. i'll be on vacation which i have been waiting for long now. So as off tomorrow, i won't be able to reply or even check this thread. i'll definitely get in touch as soon as i come back.

Marco: you can still send me the detail by PM if you want but be aware that i won't answer you right away.

cheers
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on May 08, 2008, 15:04:52 pm
PM send...
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on June 04, 2008, 17:03:32 pm
Is this "over and out"? ???
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: bobthebob01 on June 04, 2008, 17:27:42 pm
just PM you marco,

do you have any news from the others?
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: bobthebob01 on June 04, 2008, 17:33:53 pm
just realised that what i need seems to be in the other thread you started, the converted custom hack.
i have been away for too long.
i'll have a look also
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Marco on June 04, 2008, 18:45:47 pm
Yep, I think so.
That hack is all you need right now.
You can allways make a donation to JK.

This one is over....
Title: Re: Custom attribute Hack
Post by: Jeff on May 02, 2009, 19:31:21 pm
Is there any way to revive this????????????