The Pre-Update Check for Joomla 4.1.3 with VM 4.0.2 version 10661 shows a long list of VM extension for which the Update Information is Unavailable, ranging from VM Payment plugins to the Virtuemart Package.
Does this mean that newer VM versions have to be awaited before the update to Joomla 4.1.3?
What answer would you like to have ?
There are probably second opinions on this. but I would not update to joomla 4 without thorough testing on a test site some other very strong reasons.
Jörgen
I did not ask for an opinion.
I'm looking for an explanation how to deal with the Joomla Extensions Pre-Update Check "Update Information Unavailable".
I already had some really know extensions updated for Joomla 4 and that broke a site(for eg. K2) in some case.
Do not trust a tool that cannot verify all. For eg. template overrides for an extension
As I told You and Patrick said, do not update. You have already been given info from your Tool to NOT update. What will change that?
Jörgen
The VM download page sais that VM 4.0.2 is compatible with Joomla 4 (see attachment). Apparently it is not.
I would like tot know which version will be really compatible with Joomla 4, avoids me guessing.
Joomla 4 is a open source projekt. It is a complex piece of code. The VM team afaik assumed that they had arrived at a compatible version. As VM also is a complex software this not make things easier. There are probably issues that the test team have missed. So My advice is not to use Joomla 4 yet. If you are concerned about stability, which You should be, You should wait. It can be nice to always have the latest, but you may have also to face the problems that comes as an early adopter. Sorry that I can not promise something that makes it 100% compatible. The VM team is working on this and Will fix issues as they get known.
Jörgen
In that case, which I understand, a much more prudent language about compatibity of VM 4.0.2 with Joomla and clear warnings are recommended on the VM website pages, especially the download page.
Yes, I can agree with You on that one. But this is how it is right now.
Jörgen
Compatible does not mean that it work in all cases.
You have for eg. Some template plugin(t4) that break with a 3party system plugin.
This plugin are working without T4 framework.
But T4 si J4 compatible and the plugin too.
SO if you test T4 with this plugin you mean that T4 is not J4 compatible ?
No , this is a conflict with 2 extensions.
Many big extensions are not running full with J4. So if you need a safe site. DO NOT install J4.
If you have a simple blog then you can try J4
When an extension states that is compatible with J4, means that it is tested thoroughly to perform at least it's basic tasks under that installation.
Bugs may come on the way and when someone reports one, this should be very welcomed and get fixed.
Trying to find excuses on that matter, makes that software worst and the users disappointed.
Amongst the many VM Extensions for which no Update Information is available is the whole VirtueMart package!
It seems to me, whatever explanations are given, that this at least should become available before any Jooma 4.1.4 update could be considered.
DO NOT UPDATE A LIVE SITE
http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=95513.0
Quote from: bestcons on May 22, 2022, 13:55:33 PM
The Pre-Update Check for Joomla 4.1.3 with VM 4.0.2 version 10661 shows a long list of VM extension for which the Update Information is Unavailable, ranging from VM Payment plugins to the Virtuemart Package.
Does this mean that newer VM versions have to be awaited before the update to Joomla 4.1.3?
I have no clue how the joomla tool checks that. If hte plugins are not on the JED, there is not JED info and so it may tell you, that is is not compatible. Another artificial wall by joomla to make things more complex.
As I indicated, the VM Package is in the Joomla Extensions Directory (JED), and yet Joomla tells me that the Update Information is Unavailable!
I suggest that the Joomla and VM teams communicate with each other, rather then making comments like: "Another artificial wall by joomla to make things more complex". The users need both Joomla and Virtuemart.
The package is in the JED and contains a lot extensions. But these extensions are not in the JED. So you see them with "update information unavailable". Look, the old way worked 12 years now. It is again some problem we have to solve.
As indicated: On the list of Update Information Unavailable is even the Virtuemart Package shown (see Attachment).
It's simply a matter of putting the right information in the extension update xml on the extension's update server.
Nothing to do with Joomla or JED.
That issue will be fixed in future, so that the compatibility test will be successful.
As Joomla 4 is not really a stable system for an ecommerce system yet, the focus was on more important tasks than updating a bunch of xml files.
If someone is keen on getting that done early, check out the repository of VirtueMart, adjust the files and send a patch to the team.
Stefan
Thank you Stefan, yes. It is just the xml files and they should be already updated. Took alltogether again 2 hours for "nothing".