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Title: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: poncho66 on July 24, 2016, 12:50:38 PM
Hello guys

I'm currently running a website with Joomla 3.6 and PHP 5.6. I'm looking for a stable & compatible version of VM for it.  Is there a link or a specific place to go ?

Many thx
Nic

Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: jenkinhill on July 24, 2016, 13:33:48 PM
VM3.0.16 is the "official" stable version for J3.5.1/J3.6, but VM3.0.17.4 is the latest pre-release for the 3.0.18 stable version, and is working well.  Your choice.

http://dev.virtuemart.net/projects/virtuemart/files
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: poncho66 on July 24, 2016, 17:38:30 PM
Great ! Thank you man  8)
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: dimi2013 on July 29, 2016, 16:09:38 PM
How can you  tell the preview from the stable? There isn't any indication there. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: GJC Web Design on July 29, 2016, 16:50:06 PM
will explain again for the 20th time..

odd numbers beta test for experience users.. when proven odds become even... i.e 17 will become 18 when proven bug free stable
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: dimi2013 on July 29, 2016, 16:59:47 PM
Just a crazy thought; if you're annoyed by doing something avoid doing it. I know, crazy, huh?
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: GJC Web Design on July 29, 2016, 19:16:24 PM
here's a thought -- try the search..... so that the same questions don't have to be asked and answered time and time again....
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: Spiros Petrakis on July 29, 2016, 20:45:18 PM
It would be nice if the versions had the stable and test labels as it was for earlier releases, this will help the users identify the correct version to use.
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: Jumbo! on July 29, 2016, 21:10:29 PM
Quote from: Spyros Petrakis on July 29, 2016, 20:45:18 PM
It would be nice if the versions had the stable and test labels as it was for earlier releases, this will help the users identify the correct version to use.
+1 from my side.
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: dimi2013 on July 30, 2016, 11:28:38 AM

To GJC Web Design

I subscribe to and visit many forums and social media where Virtuemart (VM) is very frequently mentioned. Unfortunately, VM, with few exceptions, becomes the target of all types of undeserved negative comments and criticism. One such attack was by a Joomla extension developer whose software starts and ends with a vowel—let's call him DoubleV.

This spoiled brat launched a personal, vitriolic, vicious attack against VM and Max in a public forum. Who was there to defend VM and Max? I was. As a matter of fact, Max and I had a nice conversation about the attack and this spoiled brat afterward. So, what was my reward? DoubleV pulled the license from his security software I had purchased and this left my sites venerable to all sorts of nasty attacks. Fortunately, I immediately had a backup plan and installed another security suite that's even better.

So what's my point? Congratulations, GJC Web Design you came out swinging on a public forum and attacked, by attempting to humiliate and ridicule, one of the most devoted VM users. In reality, all you accomplished was to embarrass yourself. It's not enough that so many others are not only attacking VM but also its users and founders but now it's happening from within VM. Besides, I didn't personally ask for your "help." Again, congratulations, GJC Web Design, you must be very proud of yourself. Keep up the "good" work.
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: GJC Web Design on July 30, 2016, 12:43:11 PM
You really need to calm down a bit..

Your initial question about versioning has been asked and answered many times.. e.g. 6 days before

e.g. http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=132387.msg469256#msg469256

a simple search would have given you the answer but instead you chose to ask again...

Quote1. Posting Rules

1.1. Try to pick the correct forum to post your question.
1.2 Before posting your question, search the forums. Your question or comment may have already been discussed, answered or resolved.

At which point I said:  will explain again for the 20th time..

If u think that requires this answer:
Quote
Congratulations, GJC Web Design you came out swinging on a public forum and attacked, by attempting to humiliate and ridicule, one of the most devoted VM users.

then I think you have some issues concerning your sense of victimisation...
If you feel this entitles you to a rant then you haven't read the forum rules ...  http://forum.virtuemart.net/index.php?topic=19244.0



Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: Milbo on July 30, 2016, 16:06:23 PM
Quote from: dimi2013 on July 30, 2016, 11:28:38 AM

DoubleV pulled the license from his security software I had purchased and this left my sites venerable to all sorts of nasty attacks. Fortunately, I immediately had a backup plan and installed another security suite that's even better.
Unbelievable

Quote from: dimi2013 on July 30, 2016, 11:28:38 AM
So what's my point? Congratulations, GJC Web Design you came out swinging on a public forum and attacked, by attempting to humiliate and ridicule, one of the most devoted VM users.
I understand your point, I think also GJC understands it. Just understand him also :-).

Sometimes it happens that heavily involved users dont know a simpel thing and dont use the search, because they expect that they are "in" the topic. I know that from myself.
But sometimes there are just lazy users and GJC is atm just a bit tired by lazy users. So all good. All fine, less worrying, than my died cat.
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: AH on July 30, 2016, 23:45:13 PM
dimi2013

Advocates of VM are always welcome :-)

Looks like GJC was simply trying to suppress multiple posts in the forum for the same topic.  The general minimum expectation is that forum users do a search before opening a new topic.

Unfortunately too many people raise almost exactly the same query in order to save themselves time and the bother of doing any investigation. 

GJC expressed his concern at answering the same question multiple times and then answered the question - I do not believe he should be embarrassed about anything.

I do not see that your response is a mitigation for asking a question that a search may have helped with and you appear to have taken a negative and inflammatory stab at GJC which is exactly the behaviour you complained you were victim of.

So please let us all save our energies for our stores and our customers :-)
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: innato on July 31, 2016, 17:30:04 PM
As a service provider myself, I sympathise with GJC who is being asked the same questions over and over. But maybe you VM guys are contributing to the confusion yourself and without realising it...
I made the same mistake recently and asked a question without knowing the 'odd/even release identification rule'. Rightly I received a tap on the nose for that.
Now, let's appreciate the humour in life:
Not too long ago, on this forum:

My remark, showing that I had learned my lesson:
<quote>... I understand that odd version numbers (the 17 in this case) refer to 'development releases' so I do not trust 3.0.17 for my production site... </unquote>

The reply was:
<quote>... In this case it is meant for production, because it is the last vm3.0.17.4... </unquote>

I had a sigh and and a good laugh. You must admit that this is confusing. Well, we are all humans, most of us are trying to do our best to make life as pleasant as possible.

Finally, this thread mentions that VM 3.0.16 is the latest stable release. Then why is the "download VM3 now" link on the official VM download page resulting in the download of VM3.0.14 ?
Please understand me right. It's not a big deal but again confusing.
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: AH on July 31, 2016, 17:39:38 PM
Innato

hmm - good you pointed the vm 3.0.14 out

Maybe someone who is responsible for this might answer/update

Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: GJC Web Design on July 31, 2016, 18:00:59 PM
Quote<quote>... I understand that odd version numbers (the 17 in this case) refer to 'development releases' so I do not trust 3.0.17 for my production site... </unquote>

The reply was:
<quote>... In this case it is meant for production, because it is the last vm3.0.17.4... </unquote>

Probably not explained as well as it should be but I think max meant in your case that as 3.0.17.4 has been extensively tested it is about to become 3.0.18 and so could be risked in your case..  :)
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: Milbo on July 31, 2016, 18:01:29 PM
Quote from: innato on July 31, 2016, 17:30:04 PM
My remark, showing that I had learned my lesson:
<quote>... I understand that odd version numbers (the 17 in this case) refer to 'development releases' so I do not trust 3.0.17 for my production site... </unquote>

The reply was:
<quote>... In this case it is meant for production, because it is the last vm3.0.17.4... </unquote>

I had a sigh and and a good laugh. You must admit that this is confusing. Well, we are all humans, most of us are trying to do our best to make life as pleasant as possible.

It makes perfectly sense, if you are familiar with testing in general. In a perfect world it is so, that the last test release IS exactly the same as the stable release. Because if you change something, you must test again, right? But I agree, of course it is confusing

the vm3.0.17.4 had maybe 100 releases from vm3.0.16 to 3.0.17.4, most of them just distributed in very small circles. :-)
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: Milbo on July 31, 2016, 18:49:18 PM
lol we all answered at the same time.
Title: Re: VirtueMart for Joomla 3.6
Post by: dimi2013 on August 01, 2016, 09:23:54 AM
The only thing that's unfortunate is the death of Max's cat. That sucks, sorry Max. By the way, I never explicitly asked for GJC's help, he/she volunteered it.

But like AH and Max point out, let's put our efforts into developing/solving/and growing this great software. Thanks for stepping in guys.