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VirtueMart 2 + 3 + 4 => General Questions => Topic started by: guybr on August 13, 2014, 07:33:24 AM

Title: What do I need?
Post by: guybr on August 13, 2014, 07:33:24 AM
I have to ask an open (newbie) question which boils down to this: do I need a special template for my needs or not?

What I mean is, if I want the following features (as I've seen on other VM sites), how do I get them and harmonize them with the site's template - get them one by one and plug in, or do paid VM supporting templates do it all?

- a tabbed 'contact us' container on the product listing page
- the option to allow users to chose grid display vs vertical listing
- jcarousel display of photos on the product listing page
- the product checkout sequence

I'm asking because as I study each link in the user journey I'm finding any number of things that need refinement over and above the free VM software - but I don't understand: if I get a template (premium or otherwise), does it include any of these 'refinements' or will I still have to track them down one by one and try to get them to match the style of the template?


Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: Milbo on August 13, 2014, 09:33:13 AM
It absolutly depends on your template.

Why need the contact to be "tabbed" ? This is not the usual way.
The option for user could be done with different categories for display. I doubt it is part of the standard templates. But a lot templates offer different layouts for display.
Why it must be jCarousel? There so many slideshows and galleries
the checkout sequence is part of Virtuemart

I suggest that you first use the fullinstaller http://dev.virtuemart.net/attachments/download/754/VirtueMart2.6.6_Joomla_2.5.20-Stable-Full_Package.zip

Then you should first lern how VirtueMart and joomla works together. then you will notice that a lot of your questions are more related to joomla than virtuemart.
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: guybr on August 13, 2014, 11:39:18 AM
Thanks for the link - I'll check it out. If I already installed the latest version of VM, would it include all the options or do I still need your link for a fuller installation?

The reason I raised my original question is that the default "atomic" template actually seems most suitable for my needs, but it's not clear whether standard extensions support it's simplicity - and the presales reps never know what to answer...

Do you happen to know if there are any important limitations with Atomic?
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: jenkinhill on August 13, 2014, 11:51:53 AM
The full installation package contains a version of the Beez template specially configured for VM. No reason why Atomic should not be used, VM works with most templates, the only times there are problems (conflicts) is with overambitious commercial templates with too many JavaScript driven bells & whistles.
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: guybr on August 13, 2014, 12:15:34 PM
Thank you for the clarification! Because it really is hard to find a suitable template to use.

I tried uploading the fill install file from above but at the end received this error:

it doesn't look extension related -?

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Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: Milbo on August 13, 2014, 12:21:51 PM
The fullinstaller must be in installed like joomla.
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: guybr on August 13, 2014, 12:35:01 PM
...are there instructions here how to do that? I wouldn't be using the Joomla control panel?

I originally installed Joomla (only) via my hosting provider but their instructions seem limited to using only the files they display in the control panel...
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: jenkinhill on August 13, 2014, 13:27:53 PM
OK, back to basics. You first need to use FTP to move the Joomla files to the server. Beginner instructions are on http://docs.joomla.org/J2.5:Installing_Joomla
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: guybr on August 13, 2014, 13:59:27 PM
...my concern is, I don't see something in the instructions about a situation where the user already has Joomla installed. In my case I installed it in a subdirectory and not in the root...

The attempted install above won't suffice?
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: jenkinhill on August 13, 2014, 15:10:44 PM
It must be installed from scratch. The full installation package contains Joomla, VirtueMart and the modified template, all preconfigured. You should use it instead of your auto-installed Joomla - or as well as that one if you have enough resurces on the server.
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: guybr on August 13, 2014, 15:36:35 PM
...but what will come of any alterations I've made to the site design or all the merchandise already uploaded?
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: Milbo on August 13, 2014, 16:42:59 PM
the engine isnt started yet, not the right time to ask for how todo the tricks. Learn first to install the fullinstaller, (which is actually the same as installing joomla). Then learn the basics, then learn template overriding.
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: jenkinhill on August 13, 2014, 16:47:12 PM
It is normal to make sure everything works with dummy data and template is correct, any overrides in place etc before adding any of your own content.
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: guybr on August 13, 2014, 16:47:58 PM
...but what about the 800+ items I've already uploaded? Is it possible to do a full install without losing all that work?
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: Milbo on August 15, 2014, 19:04:00 PM
Then use the fullinstaller on another page. Learn with it how todo it. How most people use it
Title: Re: What do I need?
Post by: GJC Web Design on August 15, 2014, 19:21:37 PM
just install it in a subfolder on your server with a different database - then it is your "test" site where you can play..

you can access it by  http://www.mysite.com/the_folder_i_put_it_in